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Censorship advocate tries to reframe "misinformation" as a "cyber security issue", Reddit eats it up (archive.is)
posted 5 years ago by altmehere 5 years ago by altmehere +48 / -0
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– altmehere [S] 35 points 5 years ago +35 / -0

And the Reddit thread praising mass censorship: https://archive.is/dGKj3

The idea that censoring people who disagree with you is somehow "security" would be laughable if it weren't so dangerous.

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– TentElephant 30 points 5 years ago +30 / -0

"Security" is the standard CCP line. That line of thinking isn't entirely wrong, but the cyber security threat is the tech companies themselves.

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– Knife-TotingRat 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

And aren't they the same folks who hated on the idea of border security and control of movement of suspicious groups of humans across interntational borders in the name of security? Who went "security tish tosh"?

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– censorthisss 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

It's hilarious that a thread dedicated to the need to censor misinformation is full of misinformation.

And of course, "muh kids in cages" makes an appearance because it's reddit and every thread on default subs includes a reference to it LOL

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– APDSmith 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

It’s a question of definitions: if we agree that cyber security isn’t just about data breaches but data integrity, then it’s clear that these companies come under the umbrella of security.

OK, this is me, an infosec dude, officially triggered. Yes, the C-I-A thing of "Confidentiality, Integrity, Availability" does reference "Integrity" but that's a reference to making sure the CCP isn't dicking around in your customer database. It's not about turning yourself into some sort of worldwide Information Police.

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– deleted 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0
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– TentElephant 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

There is a reason Cartesian demons like Chomsky and Foucalt are linguists.

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– deleted 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0
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– APDSmith 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

I've kind of lost track of how many information security schemes make exactly the same damned point but use different mnemonics and abbreviations for each and every stage of the process.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

That's a hell of a stretch of the term data integrity.

Data Integrity doesn't mean that the data meets your appointed standards of truthiness. Data integrity just means that the data is as you found it.

Purging data you don't like is the fucking opposite of data integrity.

I FUCKING HATE THESE GOD DAMNED LEFTIST SCUM

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– APDSmith 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I just can't wait for the meeting when some progressive idiot tries to explain to me that real data integrity consists of purging anything problematic from customer data...

And, presumably, copping the massive penalty from the client as some kind of moral imperative.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Am I so out of touch?

No... it's the client who is wrong.

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– octagonstone 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You should see the things leftists are doing in the data science world. They're on a rampage purging data of politically incorrect tags.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I might land in that world. I'll probably break something.

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– ArtemisFoul 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

by Saj Huq, cyber innovation lead - Plexal

How about you go back to fucking goats in Pakistan and off my goddamn internet, Saj?

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– Booker 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

I'm not normally an optimist but I am when it comes to big tech monopolies and censorship. I'm convinced more people are discontent with the behavior of Reddit, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, etc, than there are people happy with censorship, and that is creating significant market pressure to develop alternatives. There are many, they just all suck.

Online privacy is another example of big tech and the government quietly fucking you without your knowledge or consent, and the marketplace for privacy protecting alternatives is developing quite well. DuckDuckGo, Protonmail, Startpage, certain Linux distros, Android ROMs, VPNs, Signal, Tor, anonymous debit cards, all were built in response to privacy invasions, and many are polished, full-featured alternatives to the tech giant offerings.

We'll get there with censorship. It'll be a harder fight, because free speech always means defending unpopular speech, and all the alternative platforms are populated by the deplorables who left the usual social media sites. That just means you have a whole bunch of normies who hate Twitter, Reddit, etc, who don't have a place to land yet.

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– crayet 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

"ministry of truth"

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