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Archive.org now "fact checks" archived sites (archive.is)
posted 5 years ago by altmehere 5 years ago by altmehere +59 / -0
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– cccpneveragain 35 points 5 years ago +35 / -0

When I see any fact checking I immediately presume total bias. I don't care who is fact checking it and how much I trust them or not. I can check my own damn facts if I feel necessary. Or, I don't know, just apply a number of different perspectives to what I know to be an opinion and draw my own conclusions from that.

Fact has just become a term used by people that don't want you to argue with them. Most people don't even know what a fact is anymore. It's like in the VP debate, Harris said, "Joe Biden will not ban fracking, that is a fact." As long as Joe Biden remains alive that statement can't be a fact it's just not possible. What will happen in the future is not a fact, ever.

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– coke501 30 points 5 years ago +30 / -0

God forbid anyone just reaches their own conclusions. Glad I have someone to tell me what to think.

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– altmehere [S] 28 points 5 years ago +28 / -0

Blog post regarding the change: https://archive.is/MfdsS

We would like to acknowledge the hard work of the organizations we are building upon in order to provide context for archived web pages: FactCheck.org, Check Your Fact, Lead Stories, Politifact, Washington Post Fact-Checker, AP News Fact Check, USA Today Fact Check, Graphika, Stanford Internet Observatory, and Our.news.

ETA: They've also disabled comments on the post.

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– Chairman_Pooh 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

Here comes the memory hole. It's all so tiresome.

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– TentElephant 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

This is because they provided textbooks for free when the lockdowns started. I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but this is the result of that. Harvard delenda est.

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– yoisi 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

the politburo and ministry of truth everyone.

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– yoisi 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

huh. i went to check if that's the one i was using but thankfully that is not the case.

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– neopowerave 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, they've been compromised for a while.

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– deleted 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0
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– altmehere [S] 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

The problem is that each serves a somewhat different role.

Archive.org doesn't just archive sites on demand like archive.is, they also crawl the web archiving them. While some information obviously needs to be archived on the spot, there is plenty of stuff that slips through the cracks and doesn't get archived on archive.is but does get archived on archive.org that could be important later. And they have archives dating back to the 90s, long before archive.is existed.

And now it's controlled by leftist ideologues.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Everything that used to be controlled by nominal libertarians is now controlled by leftist ideologues. It's a black mark on my beloved tech industry and one reason why I no longer consider myself a libertarian.

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– kxitx 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

is it possible to archive.is archive.org pages?

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– altmehere [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Generally yes. It’s even possible to download WARC archive containers from archive.org, so theoretically someone could grab a portion of the archive for more reliable storage.

It’s actually very easy to do, just not easy to do at scale.

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– deleted 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

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