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Gizortnik 1 point ago +2 / -1

"These are not the talking points you are looking for"

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Gizortnik 1 point ago +2 / -1

The ones you think meet it are just a case of you failing to screen thoroughly enough, which will be revealed later with catastrophic results.

Your filter is an unfalsifiable mechanism. You assume it will never be wrong, because it's not based on evidence, just the pre-emptive assertion that it's right, and no evidence is capable of showing that you filtered incorrectly.

You do not accept the reality of the human animal, because you prefer narrative.

Traditions are solutions to problems we forget existed. You'd be an idiot to casually discard them.

There is a pacific island tribe that has a ceremony for "coming of age" as a boy, where old men cut open their dicks to the urethra and then have the 14 year olds rub their genitals into the opened urethrae.

Now. What exactly is problem that this tradition solving?

Traditions may solve problems, or they could be completely wrong. An appeal to tradition is almost exactly as stupid and unnuanced as a reductive & narrative based ban.

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Gizortnik 3 points ago +4 / -1

He's riding her dick and making up bullshit because someone told him he'd become a cabinet member.

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Gizortnik 9 points ago +10 / -1

Wow, that's another betrayal of other people in the Democratic Party. They had already lined up for Hakeem Jeffries during the Republican House Majority Speaker issue.

I'm starting to think the Dem establishment is going to let them lose.

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Gizortnik 6 points ago +6 / -0

I wouldn't say Trump thinks he can woo the media, he just doesn't fight them in the way that Vance does.

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Gizortnik 6 points ago +7 / -1

That is, word for word, how Helen Dale describes it in the Lotus Eaters episode I linked.

And New Zealand went absolutely full-on Covid Fascist. They succeeded in copying all of it, but managed to also get major support for it to. New Zealand suspended it's elections by declaration of emergency.

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Gizortnik 18 points ago +19 / -1

From the long interview rather than the clip

Tapper: He's threatened to arrest election officials who cheated. We know that he believes that a lot of people cheated that did not cheat-

Vance: Yes, and if you break the law you should be arrested-

Tapper: No one disagrees with that, but he's talking-

Vance: Apparently you do... based on the way you're asking the question-

YES. Thank you, fuck these journos.

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Gizortnik 1 point ago +2 / -1

All I'm saying is set the standards. if they can't match it, that's their fault.

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Gizortnik 6 points ago +7 / -1

Yeah, tis is definitely that point when your girlfriend is yelling at you for something trivial, then you have to yell over her to be heard at all, then she tells you to stop yelling at her.

We are ruled by an institutional matriarchy of cluster B personality disordered cat ladies.

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Gizortnik 6 points ago +7 / -1

Frankly, Trumps problem with this would have been himself. He can handle these hostile interviews, but not in this way. He'd hit back at them, and focus on his narrative, but he'd still have a good chance of being deflected to some other point, and he wouldn't be able to address the firehose of bullshit being spewed at him. He'd just power through it.

Vance is clever enough to deflect each deflection back to each his narratives.

That's what was pissing off Tapper. He'd bring up Kelly, so JD would show that Trump is anti-war. Tapper smears with "an insult to Kelly's honor", and JD deflects to how The Atlantic is pro-war. Tapper claims that Trump insiders are lining up against Trump, JD deflects to that as evidence of clearing out incompetence; all while JD is pushing Tapper on "get back to the voter's issues".

It's like watching someone doing fencing.

Maybe it was 17 minutes, and Jake just got tired of getting his ass handed back to him after each line.

You can't be remembering your own rehearsed speech

Exactly. What the fuck good would it even do? There's no point in a speech, you won't get one. This is why Kamala is fucking up so bad. That's all she has, and she can't even handle friendly follow-up questions.

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Gizortnik 14 points ago +15 / -1

He raised his voice to talk over Jake while Jake was yelling at him while interrupting.

He SURE AS SHIT does a better job at staying calm than I ever would. I would have said many things about Jake Tapper's sexual proclivities with his mother.

Edit -

I just forgot. Vance was in the Marines. How did he manage to stay calm enough not to knife-hand this bitch?

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Gizortnik 33 points ago +34 / -1

This is the country that:

  • Mass fired less lethal rounds into the backs of fleeing anti-lockdown protestors
  • Engaged in extreme levels of force on anyone not complying with lockdowns
  • Created hard internal borders
  • Arrested people for smuggling KFC across said internal borders
  • Set up actual Covid Quarantine Camps
  • Confiscated Hotels as Quarantine Camps
  • Arrested people via media moral panic who were seen having authorization to leave their hotel rooms, and publicly perp-walked them
  • Used sexual assaults and indefinite detainments in Covid Hotels to justify the necessity of the camps
  • Celebrated or downplayed two separate instances of people self-immolating in protest of the lockdown measures
  • Intimidated dissidents in their own homes for wanting to protest
  • Gave Hitlerian speeches about crushing dissent
  • Conducted aerial surveillance (by both drone and helicopter) of the general public to enforce the lockdowns outside
  • Spread rampant disinformation about lockdowns, masks, and the injections
  • Produce terror porn propaganda to scare the general population into compliance
  • Arrested and cited people for violating hate speech laws when the police were called nazis, or drew swastikas on their station signs.

And oh, by the way

  • Shot... Again: shot with a gun... over a half dozen puppies to death, in their cages, in the pet shop, to prevent owners from retrieving their puppies that had been rightfully purchased. All so that the owners wouldn't cross the illegally constructed internal boundaries.

And that's just the fucking beginning of the psycho shit that Australia pulled.

Just to remind people of how crazy this shit got

And why

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Gizortnik 7 points ago +7 / -0

You'll note I'm not using CNN's YouTube video for this. "Full Video" my ass. Here's the "full" interview via non-CNN Rumble. Seventeen minute interview? More likely an hour long interview cut down to 17 minutes of the shit they hope would fly after heavy editing.

Qutoe of the day:

I think it's interesting you think a magazine writer [Jeffrey Goldberg] lied America into war.

Yeah, it's what you do you fucking war-whore.

Even with this, Jake tries a half-dozen strategies and gets called out on all of them, and gets visibly pissed off after being challenged each time.

  • Changing context
  • Changing quotes
  • Changing topics
  • Mis-stating quotes
  • Mis-application of context
  • Guilt by association
  • Appeal to "his son died in war"
  • Feigning Ignorance
  • Claiming Secondary and Tertiary Sources as unquestionable fact
  • Interrupting
  • Yelling

"HE MIGHT USE TROOPS AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!"

He might use troops against people actively seeking to overthrow the US government. You actively seek to use the military against people who dissent from you. From mass incarceration, lawfare, censorship, and lockdowns. Not a fucking peep for open violation of the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments. In fact, condemnation to anyone who did object to it. You didn't say shit when Barack Obama drone striked a US citizen, did you?

Fascism in America doesn't look like Trump, it looks like Jake Tapper.

All that being said, great job on Vance for putting up with one of the most hostile, dishonest, and aggressive interviews I've ever seen; and I'm including ones involving Tommy Robinson and Jordan Peterson.

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Gizortnik -1 points ago +2 / -3

You literally aren't willing to accept nuance or human behavior. You want an easy, reductive, sort feature in humans; and I'm telling you there isn't one. That is the reality of the human animal.

You know what standards include? Not "spazzing out".

Or are you going to tell me that standards don't apply after you get into a position?

Or perhaps you'd just like to throw out standards once you select someone at random that might have passed your initial mass filter on your excel sheet?

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Gizortnik -1 points ago +7 / -8

The issue is basically with the word itself. "Race" as it is used in policy discussions is almost purely a political construct, that tends towards being self-defined.

An actual biological race is something we can find, but you can't use it for political policy because there's nothing about a biological race that gives a deterministic outcome to behavior.

This is because all behaviors are both partly genetic, partly environmental, and even environment can effect genetics. As you've pointed out, you can't get higher IQ with malnutrition.

The effect of Leftism on IQ has been identified, but is even more quietly buried than a link between race and IQ. This is because Leftism leads to starvation, violence, low-trust, poor education, so on and so forth. If you take a population of people and expose them to Leftism for a generation or three, the statistics are grim.

A good example of this is the 1 SD IQ difference between East Germans and West Germans after the Berlin Wall fell. To be clear, these are effectively the same people by any biological means, but Leftist policies are so poisonous that they damaged everyone to a severe degree. Consider that the lockdowns, which only went on for a year or so, caused IQs among American children to drop by 20%

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Gizortnik -1 points ago +2 / -3

When?

When did white countries have "first world countries". Wasn't all at the same time, and were in much worse periods of poverty and development during different epochs.

And i don't see any of the black majority Christian countries out there doing any better than black non Christian countries.

Then you aren't fucking looking! The more Islamic, and the more Leftist, an African country is, the worse off it is for everyone involved. Majority Christian and non-Leftist countries like Nigeria are a hell of a lot better off than Islamic countries like Sudan, Socialist countries like Angola, or the worst of all combinations: Islamist & Socialist countries like fucking Mali.

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Gizortnik 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, that's just hacking and modding. No issue with that.

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Gizortnik -1 points ago +1 / -2

I meant Equador, but that might make point more if I'm wrong about that. That would show that when they go to another separate country they might even be worse.

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Gizortnik 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fair enough, she and Biden have said enough ridiculous lies that it's hard to keep track.

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Gizortnik 1 point ago +2 / -1

Literally the first thing I thought of.

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Gizortnik 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sorry, it's a story that Kamala occasionally tells where she pretends she was in the civil rights movement and her first word was literally "fweedom", which is actually a line stolen from a story that MLK said happened (which was already hard to believe).

I was attempting to re-enforce your point that she just makes up random lies that seem good to her at the time. The joke did not land properly.

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