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I remember someone recently joked that the left would vote for Hitler if it got Trump out of office... Well... (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 5 years ago by Baron_Bubbles 5 years ago by Baron_Bubbles +91 / -0
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– Happily_Grim 28 points 5 years ago +28 / -0

But is anyone really surprised that people on the left would support Hitler at this point? Their insane fanaticism that borders on zealotry to their party isn't exactly much different than those who supported his rise to power. He preached all sorts of ideals of a utopia as well -- which many people fully supported.

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– Gizortnik 26 points 5 years ago +26 / -0

I'm absolutely not surprised. Fascism was always progressive. Many intellectuals were huge fans of Fascism. The progressives know this, they just lie. It's actually a large underlying portion of their complaint about "meritocracy being fascist". They believe that Meritocracy leads to Technocracy, and they know that Fascism routinely advertised itself as Technocratic. ... and they think that the Fascists claim was true.

"White Fragility" is literally the 21st Century version of "The Passing Of The Great Race"

In Britain, as in the United States, leaders and supporters of the eugenics movement included people on the left, such as John Maynard Keynes, who helped create the Cambridge Eugenics Society, as well as H.G. Wells, George Bernard Shaw, Harold Laski, Sidney Webb and Julian Huxley. Sidney Webb said, “as a nation we are breeding largely from our inferior stocks.” But eugenics was by no means exclusively a movement on the left, nor one without opponents on the left. Supporters of eugenics also included conservatives, among them both Neville Chamberlain and Winston Churchill.

In America, among those to whom pioneer birth-control advocate Margaret Sanger took her message was the Ku Klux Klan. Madison Grant’s book The Passing of the Great Race, expressing fears of a loss of hegemony by whites in general and Nordics in particular, was a landmark book of its era. It was not only a best seller in the United States, it was translated into French, Norwegian and— most fatefully— German. Hitler called it his “Bible.”

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That The Passing of the Great Race was taken seriously says much about the times. But Madison Grant was by no means a fringe crank or an ignorant redneck. He was born into a wealthy family in New York City and was educated at Yale and the Columbia University law school. He was a member of numerous exclusive social clubs. Politically, he was a Progressive and an activist on issues important to Progressives, such as conservation, endangered species, municipal reform and the creation of national parks, as well as being a driving force behind the creation of the world’s largest zoo in the Bronx. The Passing of the Great Race was recommended not only in a popular publication like The Saturday Evening Post but was also reviewed in Science, published by the American Association for the Advancement of Science. The maps for a later book of his were prepared with the help of the American Geographical Society.

  • Thomas Sowell: Intellectuals And Race

Honestly, reading that book has made me hate these Progressive Racialists more than anything. I'm not exaggerating when I say they'll volunteer for death camps. These freaks are all John Demjanjuk's waiting for their chance.

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– Baron_Bubbles [S] 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I watched a thing on eugenics on PBS a while back. Even black people were buying into it during its heyday.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

That's because every intellectual in the country bought into it, and the progressive racialists had already become wildly popular.

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– TentElephant 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I haven't gotten to that Sowell book yet. Is it an updated Economics and Politics of Race or are there new ideas in this one?

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– Gizortnik 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

There are new ideas in all of his books, it's just that specific ones have sections from previous ones because some are compilations. I haven't read Economics and Politics of Race, I suspect that's a much earlier one.

I'd say that Intellectuals and Race goes over the nature of intellectuals, why they pursue racial polices (which effectively allows some groups of intellectuals to supersede other intellectuals), and the history of them doing so. There's plenty of stuff on the American transition of progressive racialism to progressive intellectual anti-racism, along with the European rivalries between German, Chek, and Jewish intellectuals that lead to the international support of Nazism among the intellectual elite.

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– roseate 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

There was no such thing as UBI in Germany. You were required to hold a job if your were able to. The current and best unemployment system in the world is Germany's today, and is a remnant of Nazi Germany. There companies do not do mass layoffs and instead reduce the hours, while the government makes up what was lost. This allows jobs to stay in existence instead of disappearing, which means the people get to maintain their job and self worth.

The welfare systems under Nazi Germany were typical things like food and housing subsidies. One of its key features was that it did a national charity drive, so a lot of the welfare was voluntarily given as opposed to taxed. It was setup to deal with what was a economic and social disaster of the Weimar Republic.

A lot of it was modeled after Wilhelm II's policies. In fact, the closest to what was essentially Germany's welfare systems currently exist today in the Nordic countries.

Gun controls were liberalized under Nazi Germany.

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