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China: "Great firewall," blocks US companies that don't follow CCP rules. BBC: "Is the US about to split the internet?" (archive.is)
posted 5 years ago by altmehere 5 years ago by altmehere +73 / -0
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– altmehere [S] 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0

I guess the slippery slope is only a fallacy until you want to come up with ridiculous conspiracy theories about Trump creating his own great firewall.

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– APDSmith 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

Mr Trump may also of course lose in November. The Democrats would probably take a more moderate position on Chinese tech.

Ha, is this is a news piece or a collective prayer from the BBC?

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– Archie78 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

defund the bbc, come on boris, time to do it

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– APDSmith 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

It's a big step to take that will likely bring out all of the UK broadcast networks against the government. I can see why he's reluctant to do it, but to my own mind, the bad from the BBC by now outweighs the good. Not that I won't miss the good, but such is life.

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– Gladiator3003 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Not sure why everyone else would kick off. As far as I’m aware, ITV and everyone else would probably relish the opportunity of the BBC being defunded.

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– nordic 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

lets be real, we all know which one it is

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– DuckingDelete 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

A more moderate position

More like they're gonna spread America's cheeks for Winnie the Pooh.

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– BurniePanders 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

I've been predicting that social media will fracture into national ot regional silos because complying with the laws in various countries are often at odds with each other

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– altmehere [S] 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

Yup, like France threatening to fine Facebook for not deleting “hate speech” within 24 hours. I didn’t see any articles saying France’s actions threatened to break up the internet, though.

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– pseudosapient 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Ah yes, the classic "further entrench large companies then complain when you only have large companies" approach.

It's much more feasible for a giant company to enforce something like that - and to defend when it isn't - than some small website somewhere.

It also allows relatively easy false-flags of small companies.

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– Skywise 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Slashdot is having a hypocritical cow

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– altmehere [S] 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

The comments there had been so conservative leaning for the past several years and for the last few months it’s been full of nothing but anti-Trump crap.

?

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– asdfman2000 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

I and every software / IT person I know have abandoned it in the last year or two. It's not worth the time. We only stayed with the site for so long because of the community.

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– pseudosapient 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Exactly. /. was, once upon a time, decent, and I included it in my rotation.

It slid downhill, but I did still check in every once in a while. But some time recently it passed my political-silly threshold. So I stopped going entirely. Which probably further contributed to the decline (in the same sense that a raindrop contributes to a storm).

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– TechParadox 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it" - GIlmore

Considering that Chinese censorship could definitely considered damage, and it's China that's blocking non-CCP-Approved content, I'd hardly say that it's the US that's splitting the Internet.

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– RedditAdminsFoff 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Its not fucking rocket science, if your country has a government that can demand user data and information on a whim (with no cause/warrant) and that government is an opressive dictatorship then yes all apps and services from that country are "Untrustworthy"

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– Sumsuch 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

The Great Firewall is one thing that China has done right. Giving our geopolitical rivals free access to each and every individual citizen via the Internet was a terrible idea.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Disagree. The problem isn't that they have access, it's that silicon valley is allied with them.

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– Sumsuch 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

That never would have happened in the first place if we had protected our tech sector properly.

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– deleted 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0
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– DocScrove 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

No, it isn't surprising that they are doing this though. I'm just surprised that they waited so long, I guess it was to do with the recent actions against Tencent and such. Actions that should have come sooner.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Wonder why they haven't done anything about Epic yet. That's a company that needs to be torched.

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– FuckGenderPolitics 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The justification for taking action against TikTok is the potential for personal information to end up in the hands of the CCP. AFAIK we don't have evidence that it's actually happened, and I'm not certain it would be a crime if it did. The point is the mere possibility that it might happen is considered enough of a national security risk to move against it and that same logic applies to Epic.

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– RealDrJester 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Fuck China... That's all.

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– deleted 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0
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– c35312fb3a7e05b7a44d 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

big black... company at it again

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– CoronaChan 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

We should split the internet. Just like the iron curtain back then.

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– deleted 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0
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