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Is Dwarf Fortress Dev cucked?
posted 5 years ago by Voluntaryism 5 years ago by Voluntaryism +30 / -0

Title. Is(/are) DF's developer(s) cucked, or are they apolitical/leave their politics at the door?

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– deleted 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0
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– Voluntaryism [S] 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Sheesh, OneAngryGamer helping me dodge bullets as always. I'll wait for the crack, then.

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– Elvis 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

You are no better than a looting nigger if you pirate the game simply because you disagree with the devs.

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– Voluntaryism [S] 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Piracy is not theft because there exist infinite copies of the game and it is thus practically infinitely renewable. That's like saying putting windmills or solar panels on your house is actually stealing.

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– Webasdias 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

That's fundamentally at odds with intellectual property rights though. That's like saying stealing books isn't theft just because it can be reprinted. Digital distribution is just a more efficient method of distribution, that doesn't mean the IP holders aren't entitled to monetize it as they see fit.

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– pseudosapient 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

That's fundamentally at odds with intellectual property rights though.

Correct, hence why many people object so strongly to it. Even the term "intellectual property" is a rather loaded term.

That's like saying stealing books isn't theft just because it can be reprinted.

Incorrect. If I steal a book, you no longer have it, and it costs you resources to replace it.

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– Adamrises 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Physical objects have a cost of labor, construction, and shipping attached that digital does not.

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– Voluntaryism [S] 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Stealing

Stealing is when i take something from you and you don't have it anymore. Unlike theft, If my book or game is pirated, I still have the book.

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– persiaprince 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Do you apply the same logic to hollywood?

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– deleted 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0
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– ZodShael 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I was under the impression DF was and is going to continue to be free.

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– Voluntaryism [S] 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Well, less steam download stats then. Every little bit helps.

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– CatoTheElder 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Coincidentally, the tranny thing and the steam release started happening about the time that Toady One became engaged/married. Also note that Kitfox Games, the publisher for the Steam version, is a completely converged organization. It has people with the middle name "X", it has multiple Chinese employees, and they bragged to Kotaku that all of their employees had the same salary.

The last release before the contamination was 44.07, the march 2018 release, which is the version that I stopped updating the game at.

Sino delenda est

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– Machksov 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

I've been a longtime player of DF and followed development pretty closely for.. Maybe 10 years? The devs are barely ever political. They programmed gay dwarves, but at a statistically appropriate representational level, and it's never even noticeable. The game is famously brutal and it deserves its reputation.

The so-called mermaid genocide fix, if I remember right, was mostly about their bones being too highly valued to even be logical. You can mass murder anything and make an entire fortress out of bones. They didn't stop that. You can mass murder your own fucking children if you want and make statues out of them, and craft coats out of their skin. They don't care.

The trans thing I didn't know about. Whatever. Dwarven psychology is pretty deep and about as fucked up as human psychology. If it makes you feel better, build a prison for all one of your tranny dwarves or exile them into the caves and make them fight for their survival. It literally doesn't matter.

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– Voluntaryism [S] 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Thank you for the response! That last paragraph is hilarious, but it's not trans people I hate per se, but the injection thereof.

Mass infanticide sounds pretty based though.

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– CptLightning 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Dwarf Fortress has always been somewhat of a life sim of dwarves, in addition to colony management, base building, etc.

They've got other mental disorders that can affect your dwarves, I don't see why having tranny dwarves are any different. It is a mental illness after all

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– Voluntaryism [S] 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

I see your point.

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– TentElephant 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

It's a pair of brothers. I know they draw the line at mermaid genocide. They nerfed mermaid bones to stop people building elaborate air chambers to mass murder them. There were gate systems to seperate the children.

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– Voluntaryism [S] 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Firstly, mucho gracias for the answer.

Secondly, even muchoer gracias for not using YT links and being an Invidio.us chad. Choke the Cabal.

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– almond_activator 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

DF is about as lenient as one could possibly be on stopping the new and creative ways players come up with to exploit mechanics.

See: kitten-falls in the dining room to build up tolerance for gore, or infants crawl-dodging traps to build reflexes.

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