If this was even just a tiny bit remotely true, then Christianity would be taught everywhere and never questioned or allowed to be questioned (just like a certain event, for instance). Islam would have been destroyed hundreds of years ago as well, to make sure all their neighbours behave and protects the country of Israel under any circumstance.
Rabbi Jonathan Cahn admits:
The most likely reason behind this, is that he's a little smarter than the others, and just doing some reverse psychological trick. "Those antisemite guys always do the opposite of what we want, so I'll tell them to become Christian, so that they stray away from Jesus"
Jews have an outright phobia of Christianity, to the point where they invented their own plus sign in mathematics and sign paperwork with a circle (a kikel, you might say) instead of an X.
Even the likes of Adam Green do not seem to argue that Christianity can be explained from a functionalist perspective all the way down to the present day. Rather, they claim that Christianity was designed to defeat the Roman Empire, implying that its intended function expired long ago. They simply saw no reason (or found it too difficult) to remove it afterward, but it does not necessarily mean that it is still fulfilling some kind of function for them.
Consequently, if I was a follower of Adam Green, I would respond: 'Your argument is prima facie compelling, but it misses the possibility that Christianity has outlived its purpose. Thus, the yids created Christianity because it served them a function, but today they attack it because they have a different belief system(s) to which they wish to move people towards. Furthermore, for all we know, perhaps the yids also attack it because today's yids are by and large unaware that it is a product of their ancestors' own scheming long ago against the Roman Empire, a history either forgotten or suppressed, and thus mistake it for something authentically of the goyim.'
This preserves your fair observation without necessarily leading to your conclusion, i.e. that Christianity being relentlessly attacked is proof that it is not a sort of 'false opposition'.
One might throw Marxism in as an example of another such 'thick' subversive belief system - a grand narrative of all history that deeply affects economics, politics, and society - that is indubitably 'Jewy' and yiddish (Marx, Bernstein, Kautsky, Trotsky, Lukacs, etc.) to the core, but was abandoned by them because of Stalin's turn towards 'anti-semitism'. Thus countless Marxist yids like Daniel Bell, Louis Samuel Feuer, Nathan Glaser, and Seymour Martin Lipset all switched from Marxism to become the 'neo-conservatives'.
The 'Holocaustianity' you allude to is of course a 'thin' version of such subversive belief systems, thin in the sense that it is modular and could be bolted on to almost any political culture, ideology, or system. It can clearly be viewed from a functionalist perspective as serving an anti-nationalist, globalizing function for the yids. What does 'Never Again' mean? It is to never again turn against the yids, to view the yids as a permanent feature of life that must never be excluded or eradicated. Holocaustianity does to the atheist what Pentecostal, dispensationalist Christianity does to the Christian: it makes him feel it is somehow 'wrong' to oppose the yids on anything at all.
Consequently, if I was a follower of Adam Green, I would respond:
And you would be wrong. Adam argues that the Jews who attack Christianity are doing it to drive (anti-semitic) people back to Christianity as it is essentially Judaism for gentiles. Also the attacks on Christianity serve as a humiliation ritual.
That's even more bizarre and conspiratorial than I thought he would believe.
If yids attack Christianity to drive the small number of 'anti-semites' back to this 'Judaism for gentiles', how do they ensure that they do not drive far larger numbers of Christians away from this Judaism for gentiles altogether by means of the same arguments? 'Christianity bad' isn't an argument that only works on anti-semites.
The maths don't add up to me. Yes, you contain and neuter anti-semites by shunting them into a false oppositional belief system, but they're so miniscule in number as to be irrelevant. By contrast, if you peddle narratives like 'Christianity is bad' or 'Christianity is anti-Semitic' in order to get anti-semites to greater support it, you also risk losing the much larger number of people who also accept your arguments for why it is bad without being anti-semites, or who find anti-semitism repellant, respectively, who will drift from this Judaism for gentiles to other non-controlled opposition belief systems or atheism.
Furthermore, if the goal really was to simply corral and neuter anti-semites, why not simply argue 'Christianity is based and anti-semitic, so you should support it to oppose yids' rather than 'Christianity is bad, so you should support it because the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. Seems like an inferior, weaker strategy to me. Associating Christianity with the Nazis is a much better way of getting anti-semites on board than simply arguing 'Christianity bad, and don't you know that what we say is bad is what you should say is good?'
Moreover, how does one explain yids like Johnathan Cahn who clearly promote certain types of Christianity whilst the others are attacking it? So some yids attack Christianity to drive anti-semites to it whilst other yids simultaneously promote Christianity (Pentecostal, dispensationalist versions of it) to create philo-semites? Seems schizophrenic to me, since one side is doing something counter-productive to the other: the likes of Johnathan Cahn are obviously grossly repellant to anti-semites.
I should add that I haven't paid much attention to Adam Green outside of his interviews with the intriguing David Skrbina. (This kind of thing is probably part of why.) Consequently, I apologize if this argument is not of the kind that Green or his supporters would make (although it makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than the claim that some yids attack Christianity to corral and neuter anti-semites whilst others like Johnathan Cahn simultaneously [and counter-productively, insofar as this specific goal is concerned] promote Christianity in a way that will drive anti-semites far, far away from Christianity).
If yids attack Christianity to drive the small number of 'anti-semites' back to this 'Judaism for gentiles', how do they ensure that they do not drive far larger numbers of Christians away from this Judaism for gentiles altogether by means of the same arguments?
Why would Christians be driven away from Christianity because of ridicule? Jehoves Witnesses and Mormons are being ridiculed in a far more extreme manner for ages now and their numbers aren't dwindling.
Yes, you contain and neuter anti-semites by shunting them into a false oppositional belief system, but they're so miniscule in number as to be irrelevant.
If actual anti-semites were irrelevant they wouldn't be fighting them so fanatically to neutralize their influence.
So some yids attack Christianity to drive anti-semites to it whilst other yids simultaneously promote Christianity (Pentecostal, dispensationalist versions of it) to create philo-semites?
Why do some Jews promote forever wars on behalf of Israel while others attack Israel fanatically because of it?
Because right-wing Jews drag European civilization into the war with the Arab world while left-wing Jews import the Arab "refugees" into European civilization by the millions.
Look at Norman Finkelstein. He has been fanatically rallying against Israel for decades. You might believe he is on the side of European civilization. And then he drops his mask and suddenly laments the fact that the right becomes "obsessed" with Israel.
Jews need antisemitism to force racial cohesion. Without racial cohesion Jews will truly assimilate into their host nations and disappear as a people. Antisemitism is the very foundation of Judaism. Without it it can't survive.
whilst others like Johnathan Cahn simultaneously [and counter-productively, insofar as this specific goal is concerned] promote Christianity in a way that will drive anti-semites far, far away from Christianity).
You have plenty of anti-semites on this very board who believe Christianity is the answer to the Jewish question. Despite the fact that Christianity has been the dominant religion in the European world for almost two millennia.
Jews aren't a hivemind. There's only one issue that they universally agree on and that is destroying (Amalek) European civilization.
If it was even just a tiny bit remotely true that there is a world wide Jewish conspiracy then Jews would simply remain in the shadows and use their influence to keep control and prosper instead of openly and gleefully antagonizing everyone.
Islam would have been destroyed hundreds of years ago
Islam is Christianity for Arabs. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all part of the same.
their neighbours behave and protects the country of Israel under any circumstance.
All of them do. The only exception is Hezbollah. Obviously Iran and the Houthis too but you can't really call them Israels neighbors. And their opposition to Israel isn't actually religious in nature.
The most likely reason behind this, is that he's a little smarter than the others, and just doing some reverse psychological trick. "Those antisemite guys always do the opposite of what we want, so I'll tell them to become Christian, so that they stray away from Jesus"
When Europe was staunchly Christian Judaism still wasn't persecuted like Pagans or heretical Christians were. The Church never tried to wipe out Judaism.
Islam is Christianity for Arabs. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all part of the same.
Why would there have a need to make 2 different religions? Haivng one is easier to control. Furthermore, Islam teaches that all non-Islam (including jews) are enemies who should be destroyed. If the goal of jews is to use religions to make themselves above all others, that seems highly counter-productive.
All of them do.
Come on lol, country of Israel is constantly at wars with everyone around them.
When Europe was staunchly Christian Judaism still wasn't persecuted like Pagans or heretical Christians were. The Church never tried to wipe out Judaism.
What's the most likely scenario?
Jews modified our history, because they have control over most if not all big institutions, to hide what our ancestors did to them.
Jews developed out of nowhere Christianism, creating a big division among themselves, with people up in arms because they made profits out of everything, and knowing they would have to, simultaneously, make it world-wide, but also always try to keep it under control
Why would there have a need to make 2 different religions?
Because racial differences are real and the driving factor behind everything. Christianity is tailored to Europeans. Islam to Arabs.
Furthermore, Islam teaches that all non-Islam (including jews) are enemies who should be destroyed.
Islam wants to convert the entire world just as Christianity does.
If the goal of jews is to use religions to make themselves above all others, that seems highly counter-productive.
No. Homogeneity is dangerous to Jews. That's why the promote diversity.
Come on lol, country of Israel is constantly at wars with everyone around them.
Who? Hezbollah? Hezbollah isn't a country. Hamas? Hamas isn't a country either and is part of their territory.
Syria hasn't fired a shot at Israel for half an entirety and now is controlled by an ISIS guy who bends over backwards for Israel. Neither Egypt nor Jordan have been hostile to Israel for ages. Lebanon is on the brink of a civil war because their government is more concerned with trying to neutralize Hezbollah on behalf of Israel than defending their people against Israel slaughtering them.
Saudi Arabia does Israels bidding, so does Qatar. UAE is doing everything in its power to please Israel. Yemen for the most part is controlled by Saudi Arabia. Turkey is one of Israels most important trade partners. Kuwait and Oman are pretty much irrelevant and both controlled by the US. Iraq is still pretty much incapable of doing shit.
So who is left? Iran. Literally the only nation that takes a stand against Israel.
What's the most likely scenario?
Christianity was developed as a theological weapon against the Roman empire.
Jews modified our history, because they have control over most if not all big institutions, to hide what our ancestors did to them.
The same Jews who came up with the holocaust? They would "hide" atrocities against them despite the fact that they're still whining about Rome kicking their asses two millennia ago?
You can't be serious.
Jews developed out of nowhere Christianism, creating a big division among themselves, with people up in arms because they made profits out of everything, and knowing they would have to, simultaneously, make it world-wide, but also always try to keep it under control
then Christianity would be taught everywhere and never questioned or allowed to be questioned
That was literally the law of all Christian nations for centuries. It only changed after the new psyop that cannot be questioned stared after WWII. So your attempted rebuttal actually reinforces the argument you were trying to counter.
I'm talking taught by jews themselves. Where did jews (the ones who reject Jesus, otherwise the others would be Christians) try to enforce Christianity? Nowhere. Did jews go out of their way to make Asian countries Christians? Or Africa? Or even Europe? No they didn't. So claiming this is a jew psyop, when jews did nothing at all to popularize Christianity, and in fact, do everything to suppress it, is just plain stupid.
That was literally the law of all Christian nations for centuries.
The law was for Catholicism, not Christianism. There's a difference, and it's an important one. Protestants were originally excluded, because they didn't abide to the Catholics' laws (where most are completely non-Biblical).
It only changed after the new psyop
You think Christianty was enforced up until WW2? What about the rise of atheism in the 19th Century?
If this was even just a tiny bit remotely true, then Christianity would be taught everywhere and never questioned or allowed to be questioned (just like a certain event, for instance). Islam would have been destroyed hundreds of years ago as well, to make sure all their neighbours behave and protects the country of Israel under any circumstance.
The most likely reason behind this, is that he's a little smarter than the others, and just doing some reverse psychological trick. "Those antisemite guys always do the opposite of what we want, so I'll tell them to become Christian, so that they stray away from Jesus"
Jews have an outright phobia of Christianity, to the point where they invented their own plus sign in mathematics and sign paperwork with a circle (a kikel, you might say) instead of an X.
Even the likes of Adam Green do not seem to argue that Christianity can be explained from a functionalist perspective all the way down to the present day. Rather, they claim that Christianity was designed to defeat the Roman Empire, implying that its intended function expired long ago. They simply saw no reason (or found it too difficult) to remove it afterward, but it does not necessarily mean that it is still fulfilling some kind of function for them.
Consequently, if I was a follower of Adam Green, I would respond: 'Your argument is prima facie compelling, but it misses the possibility that Christianity has outlived its purpose. Thus, the yids created Christianity because it served them a function, but today they attack it because they have a different belief system(s) to which they wish to move people towards. Furthermore, for all we know, perhaps the yids also attack it because today's yids are by and large unaware that it is a product of their ancestors' own scheming long ago against the Roman Empire, a history either forgotten or suppressed, and thus mistake it for something authentically of the goyim.'
This preserves your fair observation without necessarily leading to your conclusion, i.e. that Christianity being relentlessly attacked is proof that it is not a sort of 'false opposition'.
One might throw Marxism in as an example of another such 'thick' subversive belief system - a grand narrative of all history that deeply affects economics, politics, and society - that is indubitably 'Jewy' and yiddish (Marx, Bernstein, Kautsky, Trotsky, Lukacs, etc.) to the core, but was abandoned by them because of Stalin's turn towards 'anti-semitism'. Thus countless Marxist yids like Daniel Bell, Louis Samuel Feuer, Nathan Glaser, and Seymour Martin Lipset all switched from Marxism to become the 'neo-conservatives'.
The 'Holocaustianity' you allude to is of course a 'thin' version of such subversive belief systems, thin in the sense that it is modular and could be bolted on to almost any political culture, ideology, or system. It can clearly be viewed from a functionalist perspective as serving an anti-nationalist, globalizing function for the yids. What does 'Never Again' mean? It is to never again turn against the yids, to view the yids as a permanent feature of life that must never be excluded or eradicated. Holocaustianity does to the atheist what Pentecostal, dispensationalist Christianity does to the Christian: it makes him feel it is somehow 'wrong' to oppose the yids on anything at all.
And you would be wrong. Adam argues that the Jews who attack Christianity are doing it to drive (anti-semitic) people back to Christianity as it is essentially Judaism for gentiles. Also the attacks on Christianity serve as a humiliation ritual.
That's even more bizarre and conspiratorial than I thought he would believe.
If yids attack Christianity to drive the small number of 'anti-semites' back to this 'Judaism for gentiles', how do they ensure that they do not drive far larger numbers of Christians away from this Judaism for gentiles altogether by means of the same arguments? 'Christianity bad' isn't an argument that only works on anti-semites.
The maths don't add up to me. Yes, you contain and neuter anti-semites by shunting them into a false oppositional belief system, but they're so miniscule in number as to be irrelevant. By contrast, if you peddle narratives like 'Christianity is bad' or 'Christianity is anti-Semitic' in order to get anti-semites to greater support it, you also risk losing the much larger number of people who also accept your arguments for why it is bad without being anti-semites, or who find anti-semitism repellant, respectively, who will drift from this Judaism for gentiles to other non-controlled opposition belief systems or atheism.
Furthermore, if the goal really was to simply corral and neuter anti-semites, why not simply argue 'Christianity is based and anti-semitic, so you should support it to oppose yids' rather than 'Christianity is bad, so you should support it because the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. Seems like an inferior, weaker strategy to me. Associating Christianity with the Nazis is a much better way of getting anti-semites on board than simply arguing 'Christianity bad, and don't you know that what we say is bad is what you should say is good?'
Moreover, how does one explain yids like Johnathan Cahn who clearly promote certain types of Christianity whilst the others are attacking it? So some yids attack Christianity to drive anti-semites to it whilst other yids simultaneously promote Christianity (Pentecostal, dispensationalist versions of it) to create philo-semites? Seems schizophrenic to me, since one side is doing something counter-productive to the other: the likes of Johnathan Cahn are obviously grossly repellant to anti-semites.
I should add that I haven't paid much attention to Adam Green outside of his interviews with the intriguing David Skrbina. (This kind of thing is probably part of why.) Consequently, I apologize if this argument is not of the kind that Green or his supporters would make (although it makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than the claim that some yids attack Christianity to corral and neuter anti-semites whilst others like Johnathan Cahn simultaneously [and counter-productively, insofar as this specific goal is concerned] promote Christianity in a way that will drive anti-semites far, far away from Christianity).
Why would Christians be driven away from Christianity because of ridicule? Jehoves Witnesses and Mormons are being ridiculed in a far more extreme manner for ages now and their numbers aren't dwindling.
If actual anti-semites were irrelevant they wouldn't be fighting them so fanatically to neutralize their influence.
Why do some Jews promote forever wars on behalf of Israel while others attack Israel fanatically because of it?
Because right-wing Jews drag European civilization into the war with the Arab world while left-wing Jews import the Arab "refugees" into European civilization by the millions.
Look at Norman Finkelstein. He has been fanatically rallying against Israel for decades. You might believe he is on the side of European civilization. And then he drops his mask and suddenly laments the fact that the right becomes "obsessed" with Israel.
https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/2059026262539006088
Jews are quite literally schizophrenic.
Jews need antisemitism to force racial cohesion. Without racial cohesion Jews will truly assimilate into their host nations and disappear as a people. Antisemitism is the very foundation of Judaism. Without it it can't survive.
You have plenty of anti-semites on this very board who believe Christianity is the answer to the Jewish question. Despite the fact that Christianity has been the dominant religion in the European world for almost two millennia.
Jews aren't a hivemind. There's only one issue that they universally agree on and that is destroying (Amalek) European civilization.
Totally ignoring the fact that Rome existed as a Christian empire from 306AD to 1453.
If it was even just a tiny bit remotely true that there is a world wide Jewish conspiracy then Jews would simply remain in the shadows and use their influence to keep control and prosper instead of openly and gleefully antagonizing everyone.
Islam is Christianity for Arabs. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all part of the same.
All of them do. The only exception is Hezbollah. Obviously Iran and the Houthis too but you can't really call them Israels neighbors. And their opposition to Israel isn't actually religious in nature.
When Europe was staunchly Christian Judaism still wasn't persecuted like Pagans or heretical Christians were. The Church never tried to wipe out Judaism.
Why would there have a need to make 2 different religions? Haivng one is easier to control. Furthermore, Islam teaches that all non-Islam (including jews) are enemies who should be destroyed. If the goal of jews is to use religions to make themselves above all others, that seems highly counter-productive.
Come on lol, country of Israel is constantly at wars with everyone around them.
What's the most likely scenario?
Jews modified our history, because they have control over most if not all big institutions, to hide what our ancestors did to them.
Jews developed out of nowhere Christianism, creating a big division among themselves, with people up in arms because they made profits out of everything, and knowing they would have to, simultaneously, make it world-wide, but also always try to keep it under control
Because racial differences are real and the driving factor behind everything. Christianity is tailored to Europeans. Islam to Arabs.
Islam wants to convert the entire world just as Christianity does.
No. Homogeneity is dangerous to Jews. That's why the promote diversity.
Who? Hezbollah? Hezbollah isn't a country. Hamas? Hamas isn't a country either and is part of their territory.
Syria hasn't fired a shot at Israel for half an entirety and now is controlled by an ISIS guy who bends over backwards for Israel. Neither Egypt nor Jordan have been hostile to Israel for ages. Lebanon is on the brink of a civil war because their government is more concerned with trying to neutralize Hezbollah on behalf of Israel than defending their people against Israel slaughtering them.
Saudi Arabia does Israels bidding, so does Qatar. UAE is doing everything in its power to please Israel. Yemen for the most part is controlled by Saudi Arabia. Turkey is one of Israels most important trade partners. Kuwait and Oman are pretty much irrelevant and both controlled by the US. Iraq is still pretty much incapable of doing shit.
So who is left? Iran. Literally the only nation that takes a stand against Israel.
Christianity was developed as a theological weapon against the Roman empire.
The same Jews who came up with the holocaust? They would "hide" atrocities against them despite the fact that they're still whining about Rome kicking their asses two millennia ago?
You can't be serious.
what
Never underestimate the retarding influence of chutzpah.
That was literally the law of all Christian nations for centuries. It only changed after the new psyop that cannot be questioned stared after WWII. So your attempted rebuttal actually reinforces the argument you were trying to counter.
I'm talking taught by jews themselves. Where did jews (the ones who reject Jesus, otherwise the others would be Christians) try to enforce Christianity? Nowhere. Did jews go out of their way to make Asian countries Christians? Or Africa? Or even Europe? No they didn't. So claiming this is a jew psyop, when jews did nothing at all to popularize Christianity, and in fact, do everything to suppress it, is just plain stupid.
The law was for Catholicism, not Christianism. There's a difference, and it's an important one. Protestants were originally excluded, because they didn't abide to the Catholics' laws (where most are completely non-Biblical).
You think Christianty was enforced up until WW2? What about the rise of atheism in the 19th Century?
All of the first Christians were racial Jews. Jesus was a racial Jew. Paul was a racial Jew. Christianity was exported to Europe by these very Jews.