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America is not currently a Christian nation. We must return to the old ways to save it. (biblehub.com)
posted 2 days ago by ProdigalPlaneswalker 2 days ago by ProdigalPlaneswalker +48 / -0
1 Timothy 2:12 - Instructions to Women
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; she is to remain quiet.
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– LGBTQIAIDS 6 points 1 day ago +6 / -0

Even the likes of Adam Green do not seem to argue that Christianity can be explained from a functionalist perspective all the way down to the present day. Rather, they claim that Christianity was designed to defeat the Roman Empire, implying that its intended function expired long ago. They simply saw no reason (or found it too difficult) to remove it afterward, but it does not necessarily mean that it is still fulfilling some kind of function for them.

Consequently, if I was a follower of Adam Green, I would respond: 'Your argument is prima facie compelling, but it misses the possibility that Christianity has outlived its purpose. Thus, the yids created Christianity because it served them a function, but today they attack it because they have a different belief system(s) to which they wish to move people towards. Furthermore, for all we know, perhaps the yids also attack it because today's yids are by and large unaware that it is a product of their ancestors' own scheming long ago against the Roman Empire, a history either forgotten or suppressed, and thus mistake it for something authentically of the goyim.'

This preserves your fair observation without necessarily leading to your conclusion, i.e. that Christianity being relentlessly attacked is proof that it is not a sort of 'false opposition'.

One might throw Marxism in as an example of another such 'thick' subversive belief system - a grand narrative of all history that deeply affects economics, politics, and society - that is indubitably 'Jewy' and yiddish (Marx, Bernstein, Kautsky, Trotsky, Lukacs, etc.) to the core, but was abandoned by them because of Stalin's turn towards 'anti-semitism'. Thus countless Marxist yids like Daniel Bell, Louis Samuel Feuer, Nathan Glaser, and Seymour Martin Lipset all switched from Marxism to become the 'neo-conservatives'.

The 'Holocaustianity' you allude to is of course a 'thin' version of such subversive belief systems, thin in the sense that it is modular and could be bolted on to almost any political culture, ideology, or system. It can clearly be viewed from a functionalist perspective as serving an anti-nationalist, globalizing function for the yids. What does 'Never Again' mean? It is to never again turn against the yids, to view the yids as a permanent feature of life that must never be excluded or eradicated. Holocaustianity does to the atheist what Pentecostal, dispensationalist Christianity does to the Christian: it makes him feel it is somehow 'wrong' to oppose the yids on anything at all.

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– horstshort 2 points 1 day ago +2 / -0

Consequently, if I was a follower of Adam Green, I would respond:

And you would be wrong. Adam argues that the Jews who attack Christianity are doing it to drive (anti-semitic) people back to Christianity as it is essentially Judaism for gentiles. Also the attacks on Christianity serve as a humiliation ritual.

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– LGBTQIAIDS 2 points 1 day ago +2 / -0

That's even more bizarre and conspiratorial than I thought he would believe.

If yids attack Christianity to drive the small number of 'anti-semites' back to this 'Judaism for gentiles', how do they ensure that they do not drive far larger numbers of Christians away from this Judaism for gentiles altogether by means of the same arguments? 'Christianity bad' isn't an argument that only works on anti-semites.

The maths don't add up to me. Yes, you contain and neuter anti-semites by shunting them into a false oppositional belief system, but they're so miniscule in number as to be irrelevant. By contrast, if you peddle narratives like 'Christianity is bad' or 'Christianity is anti-Semitic' in order to get anti-semites to greater support it, you also risk losing the much larger number of people who also accept your arguments for why it is bad without being anti-semites, or who find anti-semitism repellant, respectively, who will drift from this Judaism for gentiles to other non-controlled opposition belief systems or atheism.

Furthermore, if the goal really was to simply corral and neuter anti-semites, why not simply argue 'Christianity is based and anti-semitic, so you should support it to oppose yids' rather than 'Christianity is bad, so you should support it because the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. Seems like an inferior, weaker strategy to me. Associating Christianity with the Nazis is a much better way of getting anti-semites on board than simply arguing 'Christianity bad, and don't you know that what we say is bad is what you should say is good?'

Moreover, how does one explain yids like Johnathan Cahn who clearly promote certain types of Christianity whilst the others are attacking it? So some yids attack Christianity to drive anti-semites to it whilst other yids simultaneously promote Christianity (Pentecostal, dispensationalist versions of it) to create philo-semites? Seems schizophrenic to me, since one side is doing something counter-productive to the other: the likes of Johnathan Cahn are obviously grossly repellant to anti-semites.

I should add that I haven't paid much attention to Adam Green outside of his interviews with the intriguing David Skrbina. (This kind of thing is probably part of why.) Consequently, I apologize if this argument is not of the kind that Green or his supporters would make (although it makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than the claim that some yids attack Christianity to corral and neuter anti-semites whilst others like Johnathan Cahn simultaneously [and counter-productively, insofar as this specific goal is concerned] promote Christianity in a way that will drive anti-semites far, far away from Christianity).

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– horstshort 2 points 1 day ago +2 / -0

If yids attack Christianity to drive the small number of 'anti-semites' back to this 'Judaism for gentiles', how do they ensure that they do not drive far larger numbers of Christians away from this Judaism for gentiles altogether by means of the same arguments?

Why would Christians be driven away from Christianity because of ridicule? Jehoves Witnesses and Mormons are being ridiculed in a far more extreme manner for ages now and their numbers aren't dwindling.

Yes, you contain and neuter anti-semites by shunting them into a false oppositional belief system, but they're so miniscule in number as to be irrelevant.

If actual anti-semites were irrelevant they wouldn't be fighting them so fanatically to neutralize their influence.

So some yids attack Christianity to drive anti-semites to it whilst other yids simultaneously promote Christianity (Pentecostal, dispensationalist versions of it) to create philo-semites?

Why do some Jews promote forever wars on behalf of Israel while others attack Israel fanatically because of it?

Because right-wing Jews drag European civilization into the war with the Arab world while left-wing Jews import the Arab "refugees" into European civilization by the millions.

Look at Norman Finkelstein. He has been fanatically rallying against Israel for decades. You might believe he is on the side of European civilization. And then he drops his mask and suddenly laments the fact that the right becomes "obsessed" with Israel.

https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/2059026262539006088

Seems schizophrenic to me

Jews are quite literally schizophrenic.

Jews need antisemitism to force racial cohesion. Without racial cohesion Jews will truly assimilate into their host nations and disappear as a people. Antisemitism is the very foundation of Judaism. Without it it can't survive.

whilst others like Johnathan Cahn simultaneously [and counter-productively, insofar as this specific goal is concerned] promote Christianity in a way that will drive anti-semites far, far away from Christianity).

You have plenty of anti-semites on this very board who believe Christianity is the answer to the Jewish question. Despite the fact that Christianity has been the dominant religion in the European world for almost two millennia.

Jews aren't a hivemind. There's only one issue that they universally agree on and that is destroying (Amalek) European civilization.

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– BeefyBelisarius 1 point 1 day ago +1 / -0

Rather, they claim that Christianity was designed to defeat the Roman Empire, implying that its intended function expired long ago.

Totally ignoring the fact that Rome existed as a Christian empire from 306AD to 1453.

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