Don't mind the downvotes. It's a silly concept to begin with.
There is a disconnect between generations on housing and you can make it funny and sad at the same time but this just looks like some unhinged lunatic that never talked to an actual person.
Yeah, this is so Redditor in it's grasp on real life.
"I baby sat twice and I'm rich"
As someone who has a dad in his 60s who worked exteremely hard, spent far below what he made, etc. He has a good amount of money, but it's through discipline, hard work, talent, and not spending his money willy nilly, but making long term decisions.
A lot of these "the older generation could afford a home" people, they go out, they buy craft beers, they buy pot, they have 3 or so digital subscriptions.
My parents when they were in college, lived in a crappy apartment. They didn't drink, smoke, do drugs, due to them being Christian.
They saved up years just to purchase a crappy tiny little TV so they could watch their favorite football team play, before that, they were content with the radio describing it.
A lot of their meals were the ones they could get from the job they worked at, or other college meals they didn't have to pay for, and a lot of their meals was stuff like tuna on crackers.
I kid you not, but eating at Subway was something they treated themselves to about once a month. Back then Subway was actually good according to them.
That was a treat, that they'd give themselves. That would be like a Gen Z or millenial "roughing it" to have to subject themselves to subway.
They were living with their eye on the future, of having a family, of realizing that money has wings, and is fleeting and you could have an emergency and huge chunks of your money gets sucked up despite all your careful planning.
I doubt most millenials or gen Z could live a single week like my parents lived a good chunk of their early life as they were building the road to having a financial stability.
"But I need my spotify, and my Amazon Prime Video, and my decent cell phone, and at least 1 video game a month at a miinimum, and the ability to unwind on the weekends with beers with my friends, and pot, and....(on and on)".
They compare their parents general wealth but don't see the lean times.
The millenial and Gen Z (I'm a millenial) think they're living in a lean time because they don't have a nice situation like past generations at their age.
No, you'll be in a lean time when you live like you're in poverty, because that's what you are. My parents weren't rich, and they lived like some section 8 housing people.
If you were to see how they started to live in their 30s, people would assume (pfft, privelaged boomers get everything handed to them).
No, YOU'RE the generation that has had everything handed to you, not the older generation. You've had a life where you got 100x the luxuries that the prior generations had. Back when my parents were growing up, drinking a soda was a special treat that was rare. I imagine when you were growing up, it was a stable of your diet.
Then because of that extreme luxury you became used to because of your parents, as you grow up and see that life's luxuries don't grow on trees, instead of being grateful to the generation that provided you the luxuries throughout your upbringing you took for granted, you grow bitter assumming they had it easy.
Life has always had the desire, in every generation, to kick you square in the stomach and keep kicking you relentlessly, and being a man is forging a future forward in spite of that.
The generation wants to lay blame at the "boomers" because it's easier than taking personal responsibility.
The things they're describing isn't even a boomer thing, it's a CEO and people running the country thing and everyone, no matter their age, makes the same choice when they get into that level of power. Look at Elon Musk, selling America down the river for Indian H1B's. He's not a boomer, is he?
Millenials at that level of power and decision making, if given the same choice at the same power level, eventually, the ones that could, would. But it would only represent a small few part of a generation, not representative of the generation as a whole.
Boomers didn't sell the country for globalism. My dad, despite his relative financial success, was never presented with the option of "outsourcing the country for his own financial gain" (not that he'd pick that choice if he was given it) because that's the faustian choice presented to people with entire industries in the palm of their hands, not vast majority of individuals including the successful workers making up the various middle class financial brackets.
The lower millionares (less than 10 million) are the ones grinding away at jobs their whole life and living below their means and generally spending quasi responsibly. They aren't "selling their children's futures away" to globalism for a quick buck. That's a tiny tiny amount of people who even have that "option", and it's an option that if someone in that situation doesn't take, someone else with less principles will. There's no generation so principled that someone wouldn't be happy to take that deal when presented the option to own an island rather than a few mansions. That's because every generation will have greedy, evil people.
Generation blaming is why the black community is so stuck and will never become successful unless they drop that mentality. Personal responsibility is the only way out or worse situations. There is no other way.
He has a good amount of money, but it's through discipline, hard work, talent, and
Also because his prime years were well before inflation, mass immigration, and outsourcing started wrecking the country. All that dicipline and hard work doesn't go so far these days, when the HR department bluehairs in corperate America keep passing over White men for hiring and promotion.
They were living with their eye on the future, of having a family
Many young folks don't believe either of those is attainable. You're younger than me, so you should be able to see this. We have entire generations of young men who don't think they have anything to live for, who think we older generations sold them out. This is a tremendously dangerous situation for any nation to be in; angry military-aged men like that have a track record of burning everything down like in the French revolution and lecturing them about avocado toast and overpriced coffee doesn't help.
We have entire generations of young men who don't think they have anything to live for
We don't.
No family, no property, no great cause. Just the endless drudgery of employment followed by a lonely grave, all while watching our country be swallowed up by subhuman foreigners.
If you're not Christian, which many of the young generation is not, then marriage doesn't make sense when society starts being this post-modernist thing where your well-being and even survival isn't dependent on having large families, which is why you see the same hopeless attitude in Japan and places such as that.
But who says you need a family? I have no intention of ever getting married.
Success for me will be paying my bills and being happy.
Not living to the standard of my parents. I never will be able to afford what they could afford.
When I realized what I would be able to attain based on a variety of factors, including my own foolish decisions throughout life, I adjusted what I need to be content. As the Bible says, Paul in the new testament, if you have a roof over your head, food, and water, you can be content.
I won't be able to buy the latest greatest stuff, but you can be content in a large variety of scenarios.
The ones who complain about this stuff are really saying "I won't be content unless I'm rich enough to whatever standard I have set that standard at being.
Considering the large amount of rich people who end up killing themselves, I think that's a pretty foolish idea to hang your contentment on.
You and I are capable of being content, sure, but that doesn't address the dangerous rising discontent in the young'uns. This situation is very much capable of toppling countries. Of course, most people will think it can't happen here, as is traditional before disastrous events.
Very well said and your parents have a similar experience as mine to slightly lesser extent.
I'm old millennial, young gen-X. Me and my wife were living in a small apartment, saving as much as we could to the point that if once a month would treat ourselves to pizza we did not add to many toppings and would add them at home to save money. We pirated tv series and games and would buy our stuff on discount.
Once we both got better jobs we used the money for down-payment on a house. We now have a nice house and raise a nice family that are spoiled.
I can see pre-30s that have a nice car, newest Iphone and brand clothes while living on rent.
I don't know how to exactly respond. We lived like that when I was a young kid. It wasn't bad. When I got older, my parents went spend crazy on the credit, filed for bankruptcy, did the crazy spending on credit again, and divorced. The first round I figured out was spending on my brother's stupid travel sports because we didn't have anything more than before. The second round was them buying all kinds of things for themselves. Now I'm in my 40s, I do pretty well because I've always been cheap, I save my money, and I don't spend. Craft beer, pot, subscriptions? No thanks. Food delivery? Hell no.
So what happens? They come back with their hands out because they raided their future for some stupid things they had to have (totally not needs). Having spent most of my teenage years when they were bankrupt and not getting anything from them really. I bought my own lunches at school even. It just pisses me off.
I do agree with you though, the blaming of generations as much as I enjoy doing so isn't productive. I do enjoy it, there's tons of boomers that are greedy and squeezed their lives for every penny of fun they could get and hung their kids out to dry and will definitely leave them nothing even though they couldn't have. Still, the way forward is never going to be to scream about the past but learn from it and figure out how to go ahead.
What you're describing is the result of not a generation thing, but a universal human thing.
In Proverbs in the Bible it talks about the wise person's approach to money vs the foolish person's approach to money.
Your approach and it's results vs your parents approach is yielding the exact thing Proverbs said would happen thousands of years ago.
If the Bible was talking about this behavior all the way back then, then this is a common thing and is not limited to certain generations.
Every generation, you'll see examples people who are foolish with their money and those who are wise with it and the results usually follow the predictable patters laid out in Proverbs.
Yeah you’re right about that. Lately I keep seeing boomer fools, and I don’t know many wise. It’s skewing perception.
My parents/grandparents church should really have spent some time on money management. They’d totally talk about how they were always the right church but I don’t think I ever heard one lesson about anything other than loving money is bad. Seems more irresponsible to me to be blessed with it as a Christian and throw it all away on things.
I agree, they are stereotypes of "capitalists" that only a leftist would think are remotely realistic. Not parody, lefties actually believe these men are everywhere.
Don't mind the downvotes. It's a silly concept to begin with.
There is a disconnect between generations on housing and you can make it funny and sad at the same time but this just looks like some unhinged lunatic that never talked to an actual person.
Yeah, this is so Redditor in it's grasp on real life.
"I baby sat twice and I'm rich"
As someone who has a dad in his 60s who worked exteremely hard, spent far below what he made, etc. He has a good amount of money, but it's through discipline, hard work, talent, and not spending his money willy nilly, but making long term decisions.
A lot of these "the older generation could afford a home" people, they go out, they buy craft beers, they buy pot, they have 3 or so digital subscriptions.
My parents when they were in college, lived in a crappy apartment. They didn't drink, smoke, do drugs, due to them being Christian.
They saved up years just to purchase a crappy tiny little TV so they could watch their favorite football team play, before that, they were content with the radio describing it.
A lot of their meals were the ones they could get from the job they worked at, or other college meals they didn't have to pay for, and a lot of their meals was stuff like tuna on crackers.
I kid you not, but eating at Subway was something they treated themselves to about once a month. Back then Subway was actually good according to them.
That was a treat, that they'd give themselves. That would be like a Gen Z or millenial "roughing it" to have to subject themselves to subway.
They were living with their eye on the future, of having a family, of realizing that money has wings, and is fleeting and you could have an emergency and huge chunks of your money gets sucked up despite all your careful planning.
I doubt most millenials or gen Z could live a single week like my parents lived a good chunk of their early life as they were building the road to having a financial stability.
"But I need my spotify, and my Amazon Prime Video, and my decent cell phone, and at least 1 video game a month at a miinimum, and the ability to unwind on the weekends with beers with my friends, and pot, and....(on and on)".
They compare their parents general wealth but don't see the lean times.
The millenial and Gen Z (I'm a millenial) think they're living in a lean time because they don't have a nice situation like past generations at their age.
No, you'll be in a lean time when you live like you're in poverty, because that's what you are. My parents weren't rich, and they lived like some section 8 housing people.
If you were to see how they started to live in their 30s, people would assume (pfft, privelaged boomers get everything handed to them).
No, YOU'RE the generation that has had everything handed to you, not the older generation. You've had a life where you got 100x the luxuries that the prior generations had. Back when my parents were growing up, drinking a soda was a special treat that was rare. I imagine when you were growing up, it was a stable of your diet.
Then because of that extreme luxury you became used to because of your parents, as you grow up and see that life's luxuries don't grow on trees, instead of being grateful to the generation that provided you the luxuries throughout your upbringing you took for granted, you grow bitter assumming they had it easy.
Life has always had the desire, in every generation, to kick you square in the stomach and keep kicking you relentlessly, and being a man is forging a future forward in spite of that.
The generation wants to lay blame at the "boomers" because it's easier than taking personal responsibility.
The things they're describing isn't even a boomer thing, it's a CEO and people running the country thing and everyone, no matter their age, makes the same choice when they get into that level of power. Look at Elon Musk, selling America down the river for Indian H1B's. He's not a boomer, is he?
Millenials at that level of power and decision making, if given the same choice at the same power level, eventually, the ones that could, would. But it would only represent a small few part of a generation, not representative of the generation as a whole.
Boomers didn't sell the country for globalism. My dad, despite his relative financial success, was never presented with the option of "outsourcing the country for his own financial gain" (not that he'd pick that choice if he was given it) because that's the faustian choice presented to people with entire industries in the palm of their hands, not vast majority of individuals including the successful workers making up the various middle class financial brackets.
The lower millionares (less than 10 million) are the ones grinding away at jobs their whole life and living below their means and generally spending quasi responsibly. They aren't "selling their children's futures away" to globalism for a quick buck. That's a tiny tiny amount of people who even have that "option", and it's an option that if someone in that situation doesn't take, someone else with less principles will. There's no generation so principled that someone wouldn't be happy to take that deal when presented the option to own an island rather than a few mansions. That's because every generation will have greedy, evil people.
Generation blaming is why the black community is so stuck and will never become successful unless they drop that mentality. Personal responsibility is the only way out or worse situations. There is no other way.
Also because his prime years were well before inflation, mass immigration, and outsourcing started wrecking the country. All that dicipline and hard work doesn't go so far these days, when the HR department bluehairs in corperate America keep passing over White men for hiring and promotion.
Many young folks don't believe either of those is attainable. You're younger than me, so you should be able to see this. We have entire generations of young men who don't think they have anything to live for, who think we older generations sold them out. This is a tremendously dangerous situation for any nation to be in; angry military-aged men like that have a track record of burning everything down like in the French revolution and lecturing them about avocado toast and overpriced coffee doesn't help.
We don't.
No family, no property, no great cause. Just the endless drudgery of employment followed by a lonely grave, all while watching our country be swallowed up by subhuman foreigners.
If you're not Christian, which many of the young generation is not, then marriage doesn't make sense when society starts being this post-modernist thing where your well-being and even survival isn't dependent on having large families, which is why you see the same hopeless attitude in Japan and places such as that.
But who says you need a family? I have no intention of ever getting married.
Success for me will be paying my bills and being happy.
Not living to the standard of my parents. I never will be able to afford what they could afford.
When I realized what I would be able to attain based on a variety of factors, including my own foolish decisions throughout life, I adjusted what I need to be content. As the Bible says, Paul in the new testament, if you have a roof over your head, food, and water, you can be content.
I won't be able to buy the latest greatest stuff, but you can be content in a large variety of scenarios.
The ones who complain about this stuff are really saying "I won't be content unless I'm rich enough to whatever standard I have set that standard at being.
Considering the large amount of rich people who end up killing themselves, I think that's a pretty foolish idea to hang your contentment on.
You and I are capable of being content, sure, but that doesn't address the dangerous rising discontent in the young'uns. This situation is very much capable of toppling countries. Of course, most people will think it can't happen here, as is traditional before disastrous events.
Very well said and your parents have a similar experience as mine to slightly lesser extent.
I'm old millennial, young gen-X. Me and my wife were living in a small apartment, saving as much as we could to the point that if once a month would treat ourselves to pizza we did not add to many toppings and would add them at home to save money. We pirated tv series and games and would buy our stuff on discount.
Once we both got better jobs we used the money for down-payment on a house. We now have a nice house and raise a nice family that are spoiled.
I can see pre-30s that have a nice car, newest Iphone and brand clothes while living on rent.
I don't know how to exactly respond. We lived like that when I was a young kid. It wasn't bad. When I got older, my parents went spend crazy on the credit, filed for bankruptcy, did the crazy spending on credit again, and divorced. The first round I figured out was spending on my brother's stupid travel sports because we didn't have anything more than before. The second round was them buying all kinds of things for themselves. Now I'm in my 40s, I do pretty well because I've always been cheap, I save my money, and I don't spend. Craft beer, pot, subscriptions? No thanks. Food delivery? Hell no.
So what happens? They come back with their hands out because they raided their future for some stupid things they had to have (totally not needs). Having spent most of my teenage years when they were bankrupt and not getting anything from them really. I bought my own lunches at school even. It just pisses me off.
I do agree with you though, the blaming of generations as much as I enjoy doing so isn't productive. I do enjoy it, there's tons of boomers that are greedy and squeezed their lives for every penny of fun they could get and hung their kids out to dry and will definitely leave them nothing even though they couldn't have. Still, the way forward is never going to be to scream about the past but learn from it and figure out how to go ahead.
What you're describing is the result of not a generation thing, but a universal human thing.
In Proverbs in the Bible it talks about the wise person's approach to money vs the foolish person's approach to money.
Your approach and it's results vs your parents approach is yielding the exact thing Proverbs said would happen thousands of years ago.
If the Bible was talking about this behavior all the way back then, then this is a common thing and is not limited to certain generations.
Every generation, you'll see examples people who are foolish with their money and those who are wise with it and the results usually follow the predictable patters laid out in Proverbs.
Yeah you’re right about that. Lately I keep seeing boomer fools, and I don’t know many wise. It’s skewing perception.
My parents/grandparents church should really have spent some time on money management. They’d totally talk about how they were always the right church but I don’t think I ever heard one lesson about anything other than loving money is bad. Seems more irresponsible to me to be blessed with it as a Christian and throw it all away on things.
I gave you an upvote
I agree, they are stereotypes of "capitalists" that only a leftist would think are remotely realistic. Not parody, lefties actually believe these men are everywhere.