I'm the last one to defend twitch, but could the disposal of gifts be a security thing? like, do they have a system in place where fans can give physical gifts to the streamers?
I could totally see creeps "gifting" dangerous items or items laced with something bad. if I was an event organizer, and I heard of people doing this unsolicited, I would at the very least have the items irradiated. if I didn't have the means to do so, I would have them disposed of.
That's their claim. But they also claimed they could get them to the streamers. Then threw them away in sight of the gift givers.
I agree gifts are sketchy. But, even if that was the legitimate reason, Twitch still royally fucked up.
Also, when they chucked one of the gifts in the trash and got confronted about it, they claimed it could have been a bomb.
Yeah...let that sink in. Their "bomb disposal" method was putting it in a public trash can where everyone was. They're fucking retards, no matter how you slice it.
Either have a "no gift" policy (and refuse to accept any gifts), or correctly make sure the gifts get to the recipients.
And probably the most dangerous and likely form off attack is an airtag, and that can be scanned for easily, as I understand.
This actually happened to indie vtuber Camila late last year, a deranged fan AirTagged something, flew to her residence, and then started banging on the walls of her house outside to confirm it was her house and then tried to get in. I think they stole the gifts
Could be. But it wasn't. Because if it was, that would be a very simple matter that everyone understands and is understandable, and therefore easy to convey to the guests.
"I'm sorry, we can't accept gifts for vtubers, only fleshtubers, out of concern for airtags and tracking devices. She appreciates the thought, please post a picture of it on her discord." would resolve ANY issues related to "dangerous gifts".
Instead, they chuck it in an open nearby trash and say "It's a BOMB!" (in Chibi's case, notably NOT calling a bomb squad afterwards, just taking glee in the destruction of property), or they confirm that it WILL go to the vtuber (a verbal contract made, and Henya specifically wanted the gifts to go to her, airtag risk be damned) and then threw out everything (in Henya's case, or claimed to throw out, at least).
Which isn't exactly conducive to, you know, security or the public.
When the truth is less destructive, less invasive, and less damaging than a lie, why would they lie? The obvious answer is that that "truth" isn't the truth. They were not protecting vtubers, and denying the presents stops the Twitchcon staff and execs from stealing the gifts and claiming they were "thrown out".
Its always been insane to me, seeing people eat stuff they received in PO boxes.
But there are mail opening/screening services that could be used to check gifts before they're passed on.
I'm the last one to defend twitch, but could the disposal of gifts be a security thing? like, do they have a system in place where fans can give physical gifts to the streamers?
I could totally see creeps "gifting" dangerous items or items laced with something bad. if I was an event organizer, and I heard of people doing this unsolicited, I would at the very least have the items irradiated. if I didn't have the means to do so, I would have them disposed of.
That's their claim. But they also claimed they could get them to the streamers. Then threw them away in sight of the gift givers.
I agree gifts are sketchy. But, even if that was the legitimate reason, Twitch still royally fucked up.
Also, when they chucked one of the gifts in the trash and got confronted about it, they claimed it could have been a bomb.
Yeah...let that sink in. Their "bomb disposal" method was putting it in a public trash can where everyone was. They're fucking retards, no matter how you slice it.
Either have a "no gift" policy (and refuse to accept any gifts), or correctly make sure the gifts get to the recipients.
And probably the most dangerous and likely form off attack is an airtag, and that can be scanned for easily, as I understand.
People embedding AirTags in gifts and using them to find where people live is also a concern. Though you can check for that.
This actually happened to indie vtuber Camila late last year, a deranged fan AirTagged something, flew to her residence, and then started banging on the walls of her house outside to confirm it was her house and then tried to get in. I think they stole the gifts
With a fucking sledgehammer or something, as I recall.
Lots of psycho weirdos out there.
Could be. But it wasn't. Because if it was, that would be a very simple matter that everyone understands and is understandable, and therefore easy to convey to the guests.
"I'm sorry, we can't accept gifts for vtubers, only fleshtubers, out of concern for airtags and tracking devices. She appreciates the thought, please post a picture of it on her discord." would resolve ANY issues related to "dangerous gifts".
Instead, they chuck it in an open nearby trash and say "It's a BOMB!" (in Chibi's case, notably NOT calling a bomb squad afterwards, just taking glee in the destruction of property), or they confirm that it WILL go to the vtuber (a verbal contract made, and Henya specifically wanted the gifts to go to her, airtag risk be damned) and then threw out everything (in Henya's case, or claimed to throw out, at least).
Which isn't exactly conducive to, you know, security or the public.
When the truth is less destructive, less invasive, and less damaging than a lie, why would they lie? The obvious answer is that that "truth" isn't the truth. They were not protecting vtubers, and denying the presents stops the Twitchcon staff and execs from stealing the gifts and claiming they were "thrown out".
asmon said they're either incompetent and let dangerous things into the con, or they're incompetent and disposing of dangerous things incorrectly
Its always been insane to me, seeing people eat stuff they received in PO boxes. But there are mail opening/screening services that could be used to check gifts before they're passed on.