I think it's a mistake to assume that there are no people that can be salvaged.
If they haven't walked away years ago, then they don't deserve to be salvaged. They've shown what they will approve of and prop up, even if they don't directly support, and that makes them morally repugnant all the same.
You don't get to "well I didn't think about it too hard" and "oopsie" when your side's mainstream platform was child mutilation and extreme violence. Not the shit they were doing under the radar and you were convinced was something upright, that's direct things they do.
If they haven't walked away years ago, then they don't deserve to be salvaged.
Depends on age. Plenty of dumb kids buy into the feel-good motte platitudes of leftism without understanding the reality. Most will age out of it. But if they haven't walked away and are older than 25-30, there's probably minimal hope.
Some idiot 19 year old who thinks that if we all just paid 1% more in taxes, we'd really solve all the world's problems time... they'll learn the hard way. Same as the rest of us did. They don't appreciate how evil the left is yet. They need some time outside of the conditioning chambers.
Plenty of dumb kids buy into the feel-good motte platitudes of leftism without understanding the reality
Of course, a dumb kid also hasn't been around long enough to really build up any "guilt" through supporting it. They've barely voted, they have not had much time to infect anything outside their social circle of other dumb kids, and can be forgiven for naivety given they haven't had the time to see fruits from their own labors.
Someone who has had the time to actively observe the world and their effects upon it doesn't have that excuse.
If they haven't walked away years ago, then they don't deserve to be salvaged. They've shown what they will approve of and prop up, even if they don't directly support, and that makes them morally repugnant all the same.
You don't get to "well I didn't think about it too hard" and "oopsie" when your side's mainstream platform was child mutilation and extreme violence. Not the shit they were doing under the radar and you were convinced was something upright, that's direct things they do.
Depends on age. Plenty of dumb kids buy into the feel-good motte platitudes of leftism without understanding the reality. Most will age out of it. But if they haven't walked away and are older than 25-30, there's probably minimal hope.
Some idiot 19 year old who thinks that if we all just paid 1% more in taxes, we'd really solve all the world's problems time... they'll learn the hard way. Same as the rest of us did. They don't appreciate how evil the left is yet. They need some time outside of the conditioning chambers.
Of course, a dumb kid also hasn't been around long enough to really build up any "guilt" through supporting it. They've barely voted, they have not had much time to infect anything outside their social circle of other dumb kids, and can be forgiven for naivety given they haven't had the time to see fruits from their own labors.
Someone who has had the time to actively observe the world and their effects upon it doesn't have that excuse.
Civilizational scale propaganda is a hell of a drug, but you and I have had this conversation before.
We have, so we can call it there.