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Billboard Chris assaulted by Gazatard on streets of UK. Hundreds of London Metropolitan Police standing around. They all refused to arrest him. (twitter.com)
posted 294 days ago by YesMovement 294 days ago by YesMovement +53 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 294 days ago +3 / -0

Thanks for the context. I suspected this was explicitly about Israel and not some unrelated thing. OP obfuscated that.

OP is a good guy, I don't think he was obfuscating anything. I think Billboard Chris generally shows up to places where there are a lot of people gathering/protesting with his signs.

Is it really? ZioCons are going to run wild with this, but Zionism is just going to be a far bigger drag on the right than smashing ice cream on Zionists is going to be on the left.

The reason why ZioCons will run wild with this, is because it's a stupid thing to do over something even more stupid - whether or not one person's action is a greater drag on the left than the right's unanimous pro-Israel position is a greater drag on the right.

Both are probably close to 0 in terms of drag. How many people don't support the right because it's pro-Israel? No one, right?

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 1 point 294 days ago +1 / -0

Israel's popularity is under water in every Western country. While foreign policy isn't generally a major concern for voters, it's still going to be at least a bit of a drag. The in your face turbo-Zionism is especially a turn off.

No one is going to remember or care about activists weaponizing ice cream.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 294 days ago +2 / -0

Israel's popularity is under water in every Western country. While foreign policy isn't generally a major concern for voters, it's still going to be at least a bit of a drag. The in your face turbo-Zionism is especially a turn off.

Yeah, I don't think anyone votes on foreign policy, but people like Ted Cruz are intent on making it appear (or maybe showing) that they care less about their own country than they do about Israel.

Be glad that this is what they're doing. Because no one would protest if they were taking a Macronist line: supporting Israel while pretending not to. Unfortunately, that is probably where America is headed. At least turbo-zionists are honest.

No one is going to remember or care about activists weaponizing ice cream.

It's probably a turn-off for their cause, because they're tarring opposition to genocide with their woke crap.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 2 points 294 days ago +2 / -0

supporting Israel while pretending not to

Yep, that is where a lot of things are heading. The right can weaponize the duplicity of people like Macron by calling out their bullshit. A Zionist right isn't going to do that, though. There's a hidden opportunity cost that comes with Zionism in situations like this.

they're tarring opposition to genocide with their woke crap

This is generally true. It's a point that doomernat made in his debate with Medi Hassan on Jubilee a while back. We can use the left's obnoxious woke shit against them here. Sincere nationalism in Western countries is better for Palestine than these woke shit heads. Sincere is an important word. It can't be some Zionist gayop.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 294 days ago +1 / -0

Yep, that is where a lot of things are heading. The right can weaponize the duplicity of people like Macron by calling out their bullshit. A Zionist right isn't going to do that, though. There's a hidden opportunity cost that comes with Zionism in situations like this.

I'm not as optimistic, or maybe pessimistic, as you are here. I don't think it will make a difference. Still, the fact that 'the right' is attacking Macron for a completely meaningless symbolic gesture of recognition, and not for shooting down missiles retaliating for Israel's unprovoked war on Iran is wild.

You can be a zionist while still opposing that. You don't have to be a lunatic.

Sincere nationalism in Western countries is better for Palestine than these woke shit heads. Sincere is an important word. It can't be some Zionist gayop.

I think you overestimate the extent to which support for Israel among European populists is a 'gayop'. It's just "Israel fighting Muslims, Muslims bad". And they are bad, of course, but Israel's actions do us no good.

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