Israel's popularity is under water in every Western country. While foreign policy isn't generally a major concern for voters, it's still going to be at least a bit of a drag. The in your face turbo-Zionism is especially a turn off.
Yeah, I don't think anyone votes on foreign policy, but people like Ted Cruz are intent on making it appear (or maybe showing) that they care less about their own country than they do about Israel.
Be glad that this is what they're doing. Because no one would protest if they were taking a Macronist line: supporting Israel while pretending not to. Unfortunately, that is probably where America is headed. At least turbo-zionists are honest.
No one is going to remember or care about activists weaponizing ice cream.
It's probably a turn-off for their cause, because they're tarring opposition to genocide with their woke crap.
Yep, that is where a lot of things are heading. The right can weaponize the duplicity of people like Macron by calling out their bullshit. A Zionist right isn't going to do that, though. There's a hidden opportunity cost that comes with Zionism in situations like this.
they're tarring opposition to genocide with their woke crap
This is generally true. It's a point that doomernat made in his debate with Medi Hassan on Jubilee a while back. We can use the left's obnoxious woke shit against them here. Sincere nationalism in Western countries is better for Palestine than these woke shit heads. Sincere is an important word. It can't be some Zionist gayop.
Yep, that is where a lot of things are heading. The right can weaponize the duplicity of people like Macron by calling out their bullshit. A Zionist right isn't going to do that, though. There's a hidden opportunity cost that comes with Zionism in situations like this.
I'm not as optimistic, or maybe pessimistic, as you are here. I don't think it will make a difference. Still, the fact that 'the right' is attacking Macron for a completely meaningless symbolic gesture of recognition, and not for shooting down missiles retaliating for Israel's unprovoked war on Iran is wild.
You can be a zionist while still opposing that. You don't have to be a lunatic.
Sincere nationalism in Western countries is better for Palestine than these woke shit heads. Sincere is an important word. It can't be some Zionist gayop.
I think you overestimate the extent to which support for Israel among European populists is a 'gayop'. It's just "Israel fighting Muslims, Muslims bad". And they are bad, of course, but Israel's actions do us no good.
I am optimistic, actually. Public opinion is going pretty well. We just need better political movements to come out of it.
It's a gayop. There is no war between Israel and "Muslims." Countries like France are part of a coalition that includes Israel, other Western countries, and Muslim countries like Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The framing of "Israel vs. Muslims" is entirely fake, and people actually in politics, running parties and running for office, have no excuse for not knowing that. Being pro-Israel as a European, anti-immigration right-winger is especially unforgiveable given Israel's repeated advocacy of dumping Muslims in Europe.
Some of their major figures are also just proven gayops. Tommy Robinson for instance, is funded by Zionist Jews and does photo ops with the IDF.
I am optimistic, actually. Public opinion is going pretty well. We just need better political movements to come out of it.
Public opinion has been 80/20 against immigration for decades. Yet we keep getting deluged. That's why I think that public opinion doesn't matter at all.
The framing of "Israel vs. Muslims" is entirely fake
Whether you think it's fake, they believe it. I think you're partly right in that they only fight Muslims when it's in their interests. If the Muslims would just leave for South Sudan (or Europe), it's fine by them. But of course, it's also partly true that Israel is the number one Muslim enemy in the world. Countries like Saudi, UAE and Egypt are not serious countries, they are American vassals.
Being pro-Israel as a European, anti-immigration right-winger is especially unforgiveable given Israel's repeated advocacy of dumping Muslims in Europe.
They don't know about that. And the reason I think Israel won't want that, is because support for Israel will sink to literal 0.
Some of their major figures are also just proven gayops. Tommy Robinson for instance, is funded by Zionist Jews and does photo ops with the IDF.
Why should it be unreasonable for someone who has made opposition to Isalm his number 1 issue to admire an army that deals with them rather firmly?
If you're labeling him as an op as a means of polemic, sure. But if you actually believe that, then you're wrong about it. It's the opinion of nearly everyone among the populist right in Europe (activists, not voters who tend to be anti-war and anti-killing).
Yeah, I don't think anyone votes on foreign policy, but people like Ted Cruz are intent on making it appear (or maybe showing) that they care less about their own country than they do about Israel.
Be glad that this is what they're doing. Because no one would protest if they were taking a Macronist line: supporting Israel while pretending not to. Unfortunately, that is probably where America is headed. At least turbo-zionists are honest.
It's probably a turn-off for their cause, because they're tarring opposition to genocide with their woke crap.
Yep, that is where a lot of things are heading. The right can weaponize the duplicity of people like Macron by calling out their bullshit. A Zionist right isn't going to do that, though. There's a hidden opportunity cost that comes with Zionism in situations like this.
This is generally true. It's a point that doomernat made in his debate with Medi Hassan on Jubilee a while back. We can use the left's obnoxious woke shit against them here. Sincere nationalism in Western countries is better for Palestine than these woke shit heads. Sincere is an important word. It can't be some Zionist gayop.
I'm not as optimistic, or maybe pessimistic, as you are here. I don't think it will make a difference. Still, the fact that 'the right' is attacking Macron for a completely meaningless symbolic gesture of recognition, and not for shooting down missiles retaliating for Israel's unprovoked war on Iran is wild.
You can be a zionist while still opposing that. You don't have to be a lunatic.
I think you overestimate the extent to which support for Israel among European populists is a 'gayop'. It's just "Israel fighting Muslims, Muslims bad". And they are bad, of course, but Israel's actions do us no good.
I am optimistic, actually. Public opinion is going pretty well. We just need better political movements to come out of it.
It's a gayop. There is no war between Israel and "Muslims." Countries like France are part of a coalition that includes Israel, other Western countries, and Muslim countries like Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The framing of "Israel vs. Muslims" is entirely fake, and people actually in politics, running parties and running for office, have no excuse for not knowing that. Being pro-Israel as a European, anti-immigration right-winger is especially unforgiveable given Israel's repeated advocacy of dumping Muslims in Europe.
Some of their major figures are also just proven gayops. Tommy Robinson for instance, is funded by Zionist Jews and does photo ops with the IDF.
Public opinion has been 80/20 against immigration for decades. Yet we keep getting deluged. That's why I think that public opinion doesn't matter at all.
Whether you think it's fake, they believe it. I think you're partly right in that they only fight Muslims when it's in their interests. If the Muslims would just leave for South Sudan (or Europe), it's fine by them. But of course, it's also partly true that Israel is the number one Muslim enemy in the world. Countries like Saudi, UAE and Egypt are not serious countries, they are American vassals.
They don't know about that. And the reason I think Israel won't want that, is because support for Israel will sink to literal 0.
Why should it be unreasonable for someone who has made opposition to Isalm his number 1 issue to admire an army that deals with them rather firmly?
If you're labeling him as an op as a means of polemic, sure. But if you actually believe that, then you're wrong about it. It's the opinion of nearly everyone among the populist right in Europe (activists, not voters who tend to be anti-war and anti-killing).