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Peer reviewers more likely to approve articles that cite their own work (archive.ph)
posted 286 days ago by altmehere 286 days ago by altmehere +72 / -0
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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 19 points 286 days ago +19 / -0

I am shocked. SHOCKED! Befuttled! Aghast! Dumbstruck even!

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– SendTomBoys 7 points 285 days ago +7 / -0

*befuddled

Sorry

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– ModsAreAIDS 2 points 285 days ago +2 / -0

Seconded. OG comment fails peer review.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 3 points 285 days ago +3 / -0

at the time of writing it has been approved by 18 doctors, lawyers, scientists, and chads. Your analysis is overruled.

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– globohomo_yuripig 13 points 285 days ago +13 / -0

Of course, one of the big criteria for modern acedmics is how often your papers were cited. Many self-cite to inflate their "scores".

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 7 points 285 days ago +7 / -0

It gets a better paycheck and job stability, so it pays to be a wackjob.

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– ModsAreAIDS 12 points 286 days ago +12 / -0

To reduce unjustified requests for citation, Barnett suggests that reviewers should always state in their review comments when they recommend authors cite their work and why.

Or, now hear me out here, we scrap the entire horseshit system and replace it with one where "peer review" means peer reproduction of the results. Science doesn't care if your peers agree with it. It only cares if it works.

If a field is subjective enough to be controlled by peer review rather than actual results, then it isn't science, and they should stop being conflated.

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– Sumsuch 6 points 285 days ago +6 / -0

I feel like we ought to have some sort of system in place where a significant number of scientists can go over previous experiments again and again (based upon what is most important to society currently) both to confirm the initial results, and also to flesh out the findings, perhaps even discovering new nuances which were missed originally. People can complain that such research doesn't directly generate profits, but I would retort that avoiding the collapse of the entire system (which we are currently experiencing) is rather profitable.

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– TheRealLiszt 6 points 285 days ago +6 / -0

Peer review is a junk science concept that was popularized to sell more science journal subscriptions.

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– Grumman 2 points 285 days ago +2 / -0

So your complaint is that journals are situated at the wrong step in the verification process? Making your methodology and results public so that they can be independently reproduced isn't incorrect.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 8 points 285 days ago +8 / -0

"can" being the operative word. Not "have" been reproduced, but "can" be reproduced. Posting it in a journal doesn't mean it will be reproduced.

Also, followup studies that don't support the initial finding are often rejected because the study contradicts peer-reviewed findings

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 4 points 285 days ago +4 / -0

I agree with this idea. We should debate the evidence, not the opinion.

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– ModsAreAIDS 2 points 285 days ago +2 / -0

When the signal to noise ratio approaches zero due to "peer review" flooding the market with garbage, then I would argue that they are at the wrong step. They just make finding real breakthroughs into a search for a needle in a haystack.

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– FellowCanuckIstan 8 points 286 days ago +8 / -0

Peer review should either open or double blind, but still won't solve the citation issue

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– 2016TrumpMAGA 2 points 285 days ago +2 / -0

I was taught this 'technique' in grad school 20 years ago.

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