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An 'Insider' claims GRRM finished "The Winds of Winter" in 2016. He didn't publish it because of fan's dislike of later GOT seasons and ending. You guys buying or selling this? (archive.ph)
posted 1 year ago by Mpetey123 1 year ago by Mpetey123 +46 / -0
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– Smith1980 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

Some variation of the theory has been around for a while. I’ve heard that he had just about finished and saw the reaction and restarted. I think he is just being lazy and if he dies his publisher will find someone to finish. The show ending wouldn’t be bad with proper buildup. Also there are still a number of plots and Jon Snow and Young Griff will be interesting

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– Mpetey123 [S] 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

I can say I thought the ending was really bad. Even the technical mistakes like the coffee cups and water bottles showing up. That's not something that appeared in the earlier series.

Martin is being super lazy and super salty about his fans expecting an ending

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– CarmenOfSandiego 21 points 1 year ago +21 / -0

The ending was a disaster. What other shows bar HIMYM have gone for massive success to basically zero rewatch potential because of how the end was? Arya killing the Night King instead of Jon, ANY of the other white walkers actually fighting someone with a darksteel Valyrian steel sword since those were shown to actually stop their ice blades when Jon fought one at Hardhome, Jon being named Aegon (again) instead of something far more fitting like Aejon, Arya fucking off on her own despite her entire arc being about learning "the solo wolf dies while the pack lives" or some other version of the metaphor, Sansa seceding from the other kingdoms which means the North is now open season for raiders from the other kingoms, which includes the pirate kingdom that was going to secede under Dany anyway then forgot after she died, and a whole other list of things that were just one fuckup after another.

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– Jack 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Lost comes to mind. And Walking Dead but I wouldn't know... I stopped watching long before the end.

I always imagine the showrunner leaves with bags of cash, the writers next with a few stacks, and the final season or two is written by interns who put up the chairs and vacuums before they leave.

Edit: Weeds!

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– CarmenOfSandiego 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

Lost actually admitted eventually they didn't know what the fuck they were doing at the time and were just going from mystery box to mystery box. It probably all changed when they started killing off characters left, right, and center as a means to get back to a story.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Battle star Galactica.

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– Mpetey123 [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You even had the technical issues like the coffee cup and water bottles popping up. Look stuff happens especially with hi-def cameras now, but earlier seasons happened with zero Starbucks on screen.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

The water bottles in the finale were at least partially obscured by the seats the cast were on. The coffee cup was literally on the middle of the table during the post zombie apocalypse banquet. Then they tried scrubbing it from future showings.

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– Smith1980 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I guess I think in book form you could get to the ending with good writing. Yea his annoyance when people want to know about Winds of Winter is ridiculous. He knows people don’t care about his side projects

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– Mpetey123 [S] 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Oh yeah. The books aren't as infested with the girlboss shit as the show got.

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– Smith1980 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Yea, Arya killing the night king was pure girl power nonsense

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– Guy_Incognito76 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I don't see how Jon coming back to life is interesting. It kind of betrays the whole concept of the story. And Griff is beyond moronic.

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– Smith1980 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

There were people already brought back to life. As for Griff I’d like to see what happens with him as well as Stoneheart

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