I can say I thought the ending was really bad. Even the technical mistakes like the coffee cups and water bottles showing up. That's not something that appeared in the earlier series.
Martin is being super lazy and super salty about his fans expecting an ending
The ending was a disaster. What other shows bar HIMYM have gone for massive success to basically zero rewatch potential because of how the end was? Arya killing the Night King instead of Jon, ANY of the other white walkers actually fighting someone with a darksteel Valyrian steel sword since those were shown to actually stop their ice blades when Jon fought one at Hardhome, Jon being named Aegon (again) instead of something far more fitting like Aejon, Arya fucking off on her own despite her entire arc being about learning "the solo wolf dies while the pack lives" or some other version of the metaphor, Sansa seceding from the other kingdoms which means the North is now open season for raiders from the other kingoms, which includes the pirate kingdom that was going to secede under Dany anyway then forgot after she died, and a whole other list of things that were just one fuckup after another.
Lost comes to mind. And Walking Dead but I wouldn't know... I stopped watching long before the end.
I always imagine the showrunner leaves with bags of cash, the writers next with a few stacks, and the final season or two is written by interns who put up the chairs and vacuums before they leave.
Lost actually admitted eventually they didn't know what the fuck they were doing at the time and were just going from mystery box to mystery box. It probably all changed when they started killing off characters left, right, and center as a means to get back to a story.
I believe it, I lived it when it was happening. After the Survivor, Lost was the zeitgeist show of the time. They even admitted they wanted a scripted show that has Survivor vibes.
But what I never understood is that it's not like turning in their homework every week, they're working on the show, thinking about the show, talking about the show, they can even read the boards and fan speculations and steal their ideas. They didn't know what the fuck they were going with when they made the mystery box, but the answers they provided was so dog shit it doesn't even seem like they were trying.
Whatever I'm over it.
Only show in history I can think of, worst than game of thrones, that poisoned itself in reverse. I can't even rewatch the early seasons because it'll just piss me off.
HIMYM had a shit final season but you can still watch the first 8 and have a good laugh.
I'm not going to rant for an hour plus on that shitshow. But I will bring up that it has one of my favorite scene of all time, where Adama calls his son a weak, fat piece of shit for getting fat.
I loved that scene so much that wanted to put my face over Apollo's so I can see myself get my ass chewed for letting myself go.
You even had the technical issues like the coffee cup and water bottles popping up. Look stuff happens especially with hi-def cameras now, but earlier seasons happened with zero Starbucks on screen.
The water bottles in the finale were at least partially obscured by the seats the cast were on. The coffee cup was literally on the middle of the table during the post zombie apocalypse banquet. Then they tried scrubbing it from future showings.
I guess I think in book form you could get to the ending with good writing. Yea his annoyance when people want to know about Winds of Winter is ridiculous. He knows people don’t care about his side projects
I can say I thought the ending was really bad. Even the technical mistakes like the coffee cups and water bottles showing up. That's not something that appeared in the earlier series.
Martin is being super lazy and super salty about his fans expecting an ending
The ending was a disaster. What other shows bar HIMYM have gone for massive success to basically zero rewatch potential because of how the end was? Arya killing the Night King instead of Jon, ANY of the other white walkers actually fighting someone with a
darksteelValyrian steel sword since those were shown to actually stop their ice blades when Jon fought one at Hardhome, Jon being named Aegon (again) instead of something far more fitting like Aejon, Arya fucking off on her own despite her entire arc being about learning "the solo wolf dies while the pack lives" or some other version of the metaphor, Sansa seceding from the other kingdoms which means the North is now open season for raiders from the other kingoms, which includes the pirate kingdom that was going to secede under Dany anyway then forgot after she died, and a whole other list of things that were just one fuckup after another.Lost comes to mind. And Walking Dead but I wouldn't know... I stopped watching long before the end.
I always imagine the showrunner leaves with bags of cash, the writers next with a few stacks, and the final season or two is written by interns who put up the chairs and vacuums before they leave.
Edit: Weeds!
Lost actually admitted eventually they didn't know what the fuck they were doing at the time and were just going from mystery box to mystery box. It probably all changed when they started killing off characters left, right, and center as a means to get back to a story.
I believe it, I lived it when it was happening. After the Survivor, Lost was the zeitgeist show of the time. They even admitted they wanted a scripted show that has Survivor vibes.
But what I never understood is that it's not like turning in their homework every week, they're working on the show, thinking about the show, talking about the show, they can even read the boards and fan speculations and steal their ideas. They didn't know what the fuck they were going with when they made the mystery box, but the answers they provided was so dog shit it doesn't even seem like they were trying.
Whatever I'm over it.
Only show in history I can think of, worst than game of thrones, that poisoned itself in reverse. I can't even rewatch the early seasons because it'll just piss me off.
HIMYM had a shit final season but you can still watch the first 8 and have a good laugh.
Battle star Galactica.
I'm not going to rant for an hour plus on that shitshow. But I will bring up that it has one of my favorite scene of all time, where Adama calls his son a weak, fat piece of shit for getting fat.
I loved that scene so much that wanted to put my face over Apollo's so I can see myself get my ass chewed for letting myself go.
You even had the technical issues like the coffee cup and water bottles popping up. Look stuff happens especially with hi-def cameras now, but earlier seasons happened with zero Starbucks on screen.
The water bottles in the finale were at least partially obscured by the seats the cast were on. The coffee cup was literally on the middle of the table during the post zombie apocalypse banquet. Then they tried scrubbing it from future showings.
I guess I think in book form you could get to the ending with good writing. Yea his annoyance when people want to know about Winds of Winter is ridiculous. He knows people don’t care about his side projects
Oh yeah. The books aren't as infested with the girlboss shit as the show got.
Yea, Arya killing the night king was pure girl power nonsense
I think I remember at the time hearing even Maisie's boyfriend asked her why Jon wasn't the one to kill the Night King.