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Discovered a contender for gayest/wokest movie (m.youtube.com)
posted 346 days ago by CrazyPope 346 days ago by CrazyPope +44 / -0
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– Mpetey123 11 points 346 days ago +11 / -0

With the rise of MMA, we know all these flippy, kicking, fancy styles get demolished by ground based fighters. Judo, Sambo, Wrestling, Jujitsu all absolutely destroy the stand-up heavy styles.

The movie seems filled with the light brown skin tones the lefties drool over

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– CrazyPope [S] 8 points 346 days ago +8 / -0

It's definitely not quite as black and white as that, but yeah if you're a striker you absolutely must have great TDD or the ability to get off your back at an elite level. Strong grappling is just so OP that if you cant defend it, it doesn't matter how good your striking is because you'll never use it

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– Mpetey123 4 points 346 days ago +4 / -0

I was speaking in generalities. You get your Machida, or Wonderboys that do well.

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– CrazyPope [S] 3 points 346 days ago +3 / -0

Yeah, and Machida especially is a great example of unreal TDD that let his style work. Anderson, Adensaya etc. But in general you're definitely right, controlling where the fight happens is a massive advantage.

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– covok48 1 point 346 days ago +1 / -0

“Black and White”, Heh.

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– throwawayaccount2037 7 points 346 days ago +7 / -0

With the rise of MMA, we know all these flippy, kicking, fancy styles get demolished by ground based fighters. Judo, Sambo, Wrestling, Jujitsu all absolutely destroy the stand-up heavy styles.

Depends on the fighter.

We just recently saw on Street Beefs how an impressive wrestler was bested by TKD/kickboxing techniques due to liver shots and finally a heel hook for a KO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu4GQvKgaUI

Between rounds the two wrestlers were mocking his kicks saying "All he has is kicks", but a well placed kick to the liver ends the match.

We also saw how Joaquin Buckley used a flying reverse heel-hook kick to end a match with a flush KO: https://youtu.be/1QBP7gAZIOI?t=16

It all depends on the fighter and the situation. A lot of times people not expecting the "fancy" stuff is how they oftentimes get caught by the fancy stuff.

Masivdal's five second flying knee KO against Askren is still a testament to that sentiment: https://youtu.be/I6IAz0GOCh4

EDIT: That being said, the trailer for the movie above still looks like complete shyte.

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– Mpetey123 3 points 346 days ago +3 / -0

I was speaking in generalities. But yes sometimes the fancy shit lands and can be devastating, like the cage kick from Pettis.

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– current_horror 4 points 346 days ago +4 / -0

Doesn’t mma still prohibit soccer kicks and strikes to the head of a downed opponent? I’ve seen plenty of fights where grapplers immediately drop to the ground and then the strikers just sit there holding their dicks because they’re not allowed to tee off.

Also, striking is pretty much your only chance in any fight against multiple (non-retarded) opponents.

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– Mpetey123 1 point 346 days ago +1 / -0

I think the most famous example you're talking about is the Rampage Jackson vs Jon Jones match. Jones immediately dropped low and Jackson really didn't have a counter to it.

I don't really have a answer for the multiple opponents.

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– current_horror 3 points 346 days ago +3 / -0

The counter to someone deliberately going to the ground is to stomp the shit out of their skull, but I think this is prohibited in most MMA leagues. The fighters are basically taking advantage of rules that exist to prevent them from being killed in the ring.

I’m definitely not some old head boxing fan who hates MMA or grappling. My money is always on the wrestler. I just think the rules of MMA also heavily favor grappling.

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– Mpetey123 1 point 346 days ago +1 / -0

No I get your point. But even in the early UFC strikers were out of their depths, usually.

It's funny because my perception is MMA would prefer knockouts over grappling.

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