Cruz did not come off well in the full interview either.
As I posted in yesterday's thread, the Iran population stumping was already 90 mins into the interview.
Tucker essentially played dumb the entire time with a "I'm just asking questions" strategy. But managed to throw Cruz off, get him on his backfoot and come off as looking defensive and elusive many times. Including about whether he was wrong/should apologize for his support for Ukraine, the Nordstream pipeline sabotage (Cruz didn't slip up and equivocally declared it was Ukraine that blew it up, not the US), AIPAC, his evangelical support for Israel, his personal stance on calling for regime change in Iran, etc.
Cruz got really butthurt earlier in the interview before the Iran pop stuff when Tucker called his evasive answers about something (?AIPAC) "sleazy feline" behavior. Cruz brought it up twice during the course of the interview.
The interview took place in Cruz' office. I expected him to end in early like Kamala's staffers during the Bret Baier Fox News interview and kick Tucker out, but it went the full 2 hours.
Cruz called Carlson an antisemite for asking questions about how AIPAC works, whether it has any ties to the Israeli government, whether it's a foreign lobby. Carlson feigned being hurt by the label himself and brought it up many times.
Cruz tried to deflect from the AIPAC questioning that our greatest enemies were China and Russia.
Cruz also labeled Carlson as an "isolationist" that doesn't back ANY of Trump’s military actions. He tried to paint a "you've changed for the worse" angle of Carlson stumping for Iraw 2.0 BITD but won't get onboard the Current Thing Iran train.
Cruz used the justification for Iran that there's definitive proof of Iran-sponsored assassination attempts on Trump’s life outside of Butler, PA and the golf course patsy. But wouldn't name any names or details, only that the SS had foiled multiple Iranian plots to kill Trump and other Cabinet members. Something about the Iranians getting caught during Trump 1.0 renting an apartment right next to John Bolton.
Tucker asked him several times why now in engaging Iran vs when these assassination threats actually occurred. Cruz didn't really answer.
Cruz was predictably evasive and didn't come off well in the longform interview. He wasn't well briefed on topics, didn't give convincing answers, was often hostile and often fell back on partisan "That was all Biden's fault" answers.
Cruz claimed to have only personally supported the very first Ukraine funding bill. He blamed Biden for causing the Ukrainian invasion for "being weak".
He made allusions to being against COVID lunacy after the fact. He also admitted that Ukraine has been a disaster for the US, but takes no personal responsibility, simply blaming Biden.
He claimed to run in 2012 for his Senate seat in the first place primarily to ensure American support for Israel as his main goal. He said the US only gives 3 billion a year to Israel and only in military aid. He pretended AIPAC was completely American and detached from the Israeli government, claiming its funding is only individual citizens of his district each giving 1k each. He actually criticized AIPAC for not doing more during Obama to prevent the Iran nuclear deal.
Tucker essentially played dumb the entire time with a "I'm just asking questions" strategy.
Tucker is always like this. It's why I've always kind of wanted to punch him in the face. He's actually kind of an asshole when it's not a friend he's interviewing.
Holy shit! Ted Cruz has entered the chat, inserting words into people's mouths and acting like you've won the argument.
Telia said "he supports White interests." Which Tucker has. He has repeatedly made direct references to the unacceptable way that specifically white, Christian populations have been demonized and undermined.
You said" "Tucker is a White Nationalist?" Fuck you, asshole. Learn to debate like a grown up, not a sleazy feline bitch.
Telia made an entirely fictional argument about me that has nothing to do with anything I said, and you're acting like I inserted words into his mouth?
Tucker doesn't support Capital W White Racial Solidarity Interests. Tucker supports Americans and American interests. Listening to any amount of that over the past 20 years of his broadcast career should be obvious. Yes, Tucker has said that white & Christian populations have been demonized and undermined.
So have I. Frankly, I've been more assertive about that than Tucker.
But your going to stand here and condemn me for explicitly using Telia's retarded definition, when by your own definition I've explicitly supported White interests, which is exactly contrary to what Telia made the fuck up about me. You moved Telia's goal posts to try and save Telia's comment and all you've managed to do is act like a fucking retard to me.
No he's right, not everything is about jews you know. Tucker is a natural born douchebag and takes it out on his guests from time to time. He would admit it himself. He just happens to have a good reason for being a douche this time. Cruz deserves it.
It was fairly smooth sailing for Cruz up to the point they started talking about Israel or AIPAC; unfortunately for him, that was only the first 25 minutes. You'd think he would have been better prepared with something more substantial than a printout of Carlson's newsletter, but perhaps he wasn't expecting Carlson to go so hard on him out of friendship. Hence, Cruz flailing and trotting out the tiresome old insults when he was rumbled: antisemite, isolationist, conspiracy theorist.
That said, I wasn't expecting Cruz to suggest that Carlson professed the foreign policy of Jimmy Carter/Barack Obama, or that Carlson was a moral relativist, when much of Cruz's argument essentially amounted to: what is overall right and wrong depends on who is committing the action. Given that we're back to the early 2000's, I'm honestly surprised Cruz didn't just outright call Carlson anti-American, although his dig at the Russian grocery store visit could be seen as suggestive.
Holy shit.
Tucker: "What does AIPAC lobby for?"
Cruz: "Not much, not very effectively."
I actually LOL'd.
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spoiler warning:
It keeps getting worse.
Cruz did not come off well in the full interview either.
As I posted in yesterday's thread, the Iran population stumping was already 90 mins into the interview.
Tucker essentially played dumb the entire time with a "I'm just asking questions" strategy. But managed to throw Cruz off, get him on his backfoot and come off as looking defensive and elusive many times. Including about whether he was wrong/should apologize for his support for Ukraine, the Nordstream pipeline sabotage (Cruz didn't slip up and equivocally declared it was Ukraine that blew it up, not the US), AIPAC, his evangelical support for Israel, his personal stance on calling for regime change in Iran, etc.
Cruz got really butthurt earlier in the interview before the Iran pop stuff when Tucker called his evasive answers about something (?AIPAC) "sleazy feline" behavior. Cruz brought it up twice during the course of the interview.
The interview took place in Cruz' office. I expected him to end in early like Kamala's staffers during the Bret Baier Fox News interview and kick Tucker out, but it went the full 2 hours.
Cruz called Carlson an antisemite for asking questions about how AIPAC works, whether it has any ties to the Israeli government, whether it's a foreign lobby. Carlson feigned being hurt by the label himself and brought it up many times.
Cruz tried to deflect from the AIPAC questioning that our greatest enemies were China and Russia.
Cruz also labeled Carlson as an "isolationist" that doesn't back ANY of Trump’s military actions. He tried to paint a "you've changed for the worse" angle of Carlson stumping for Iraw 2.0 BITD but won't get onboard the Current Thing Iran train.
Cruz used the justification for Iran that there's definitive proof of Iran-sponsored assassination attempts on Trump’s life outside of Butler, PA and the golf course patsy. But wouldn't name any names or details, only that the SS had foiled multiple Iranian plots to kill Trump and other Cabinet members. Something about the Iranians getting caught during Trump 1.0 renting an apartment right next to John Bolton.
Tucker asked him several times why now in engaging Iran vs when these assassination threats actually occurred. Cruz didn't really answer.
Cruz was predictably evasive and didn't come off well in the longform interview. He wasn't well briefed on topics, didn't give convincing answers, was often hostile and often fell back on partisan "That was all Biden's fault" answers.
Cruz claimed to have only personally supported the very first Ukraine funding bill. He blamed Biden for causing the Ukrainian invasion for "being weak".
He made allusions to being against COVID lunacy after the fact. He also admitted that Ukraine has been a disaster for the US, but takes no personal responsibility, simply blaming Biden.
He claimed to run in 2012 for his Senate seat in the first place primarily to ensure American support for Israel as his main goal. He said the US only gives 3 billion a year to Israel and only in military aid. He pretended AIPAC was completely American and detached from the Israeli government, claiming its funding is only individual citizens of his district each giving 1k each. He actually criticized AIPAC for not doing more during Obama to prevent the Iran nuclear deal.
Tucker is always like this. It's why I've always kind of wanted to punch him in the face. He's actually kind of an asshole when it's not a friend he's interviewing.
you hate Tucker because he supports White interests and doesn't simp for jews
And you think Tucker is a White Nationalist?
Again, you're so ignorant you're either a Qatari or a Leftist.
Holy shit! Ted Cruz has entered the chat, inserting words into people's mouths and acting like you've won the argument.
Telia said "he supports White interests." Which Tucker has. He has repeatedly made direct references to the unacceptable way that specifically white, Christian populations have been demonized and undermined.
You said" "Tucker is a White Nationalist?" Fuck you, asshole. Learn to debate like a grown up, not a sleazy feline bitch.
Telia made an entirely fictional argument about me that has nothing to do with anything I said, and you're acting like I inserted words into his mouth?
Tucker doesn't support Capital W White Racial Solidarity Interests. Tucker supports Americans and American interests. Listening to any amount of that over the past 20 years of his broadcast career should be obvious. Yes, Tucker has said that white & Christian populations have been demonized and undermined.
So have I. Frankly, I've been more assertive about that than Tucker.
But your going to stand here and condemn me for explicitly using Telia's retarded definition, when by your own definition I've explicitly supported White interests, which is exactly contrary to what Telia made the fuck up about me. You moved Telia's goal posts to try and save Telia's comment and all you've managed to do is act like a fucking retard to me.
No he's right, not everything is about jews you know. Tucker is a natural born douchebag and takes it out on his guests from time to time. He would admit it himself. He just happens to have a good reason for being a douche this time. Cruz deserves it.
The population screw up is not the big story. The big story is his admission that the American military is already striking Iran.
It was fairly smooth sailing for Cruz up to the point they started talking about Israel or AIPAC; unfortunately for him, that was only the first 25 minutes. You'd think he would have been better prepared with something more substantial than a printout of Carlson's newsletter, but perhaps he wasn't expecting Carlson to go so hard on him out of friendship. Hence, Cruz flailing and trotting out the tiresome old insults when he was rumbled: antisemite, isolationist, conspiracy theorist.
That said, I wasn't expecting Cruz to suggest that Carlson professed the foreign policy of Jimmy Carter/Barack Obama, or that Carlson was a moral relativist, when much of Cruz's argument essentially amounted to: what is overall right and wrong depends on who is committing the action. Given that we're back to the early 2000's, I'm honestly surprised Cruz didn't just outright call Carlson anti-American, although his dig at the Russian grocery store visit could be seen as suggestive.