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Israel probably just started WW3 (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by Ahaus667 1 year ago by Ahaus667 +101 / -0
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– TheModernDaVinci 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

At least from what I have heard, there is a possibility that we are giving non-combat support (like airborne tankers or targeting data) but that we largely told the Israelis they are on their own if they want to do anything.

I also dont know how much it would really change his relationship with the Israelis or Netanyahu. I very much doubt he would be happy about this, and I still think he would have rather had a peaceful solution. But it is worth pointing out that in the last day or two he was seeming more skeptical any negotiations would get anywhere with Iran and had flatly said "Iran will not get Nuclear weapons, under any circumstances." So it's even entirely possible this could be Trump turning to Netanyahu and saying "You want to make yourself useful? Then shit or get off the pot, and stop bugging me about this."

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– undecidedmask2 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Netanyahu is striking Iran because if his government falls in any way that looks mildly bad on him, he's going to prison for the rest of his life. Dude is in court on some serious corruption charges (plus he sacrificed thousands of Israeli's to gain the ability to try and annex Gaza).

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– Gizortnik 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Honestly, there's enough people in the DOD that want Iran bombed that I don't think sharing information to target Iranian facilities was ever gonna be off the table.

It certainly could be that the US is choosing to look the other way on an Israeli strike because the Iranians aren't coming to terms, but it also looks like the Trump foreign policy and diplomatic agenda has well and truly stalled at this point since the admin can't seem to control Russia, Ukraine, Israel, or Iran. It seems like there are just too many people itching for a fight right now.

On the other hand, Israel has show many times in history to simply not give a shit what the Americans are attempting to do. It really feels like the first time the Israelis gave a shit was when Saddam tried to bring them into the Gulf War to break up the Coalition, when he was firing SCUDs into Tel Aviv. That's where the precursor to the Iron Dome (The Patriot Missile System) got introduced. Before that, the Israelis didn't give a shit when they invaded Lebanon, they didn't give a shit during the 6 Day War, they didn't give a shit about American warnings during the Yom Kippur War, I don't think they gave a shit when they rolled into Gaza.

If I had to place a bet, given their history, Israel warned the Americans that they were bombing Iranian targets 12-24 hours ago, and that was the first news the Trump admin got of it.

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– TheModernDaVinci 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

If I had to place a bet, given their history, Israel warned the Americans that they were bombing Iranian targets 12-24 hours ago, and that was the first news the Trump admin got of it.

Maybe not. Or at least, if it was Trump has accepted it. Since now Trump is today out there saying effectively "I warned you" to Iran and at least publicly doesnt seem too taken aback by this whole situation. So it is seeming that his attitude toward a lot of what Israel is getting up to "I'm not going to help you. But I'm not going to stop you either." and quite frankly I think that is probably the most productive way to handle the situation as we try and get more countries in the Middle East to move toward no longer viewing Israel as an enemy that must be destroyed (like we have largely accomplished with the Saudi's and Egyptians).

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Well, it was probably obvious that Israel was thinking about attacking.

"I'm not going to help you. But I'm not going to stop you either." and quite frankly I think that is probably the most productive way to handle the situation

That's literally the least Israel First position we've seen from an American President since... maybe, the invasion of Lebanon, or the Eisenhower admin.

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– ApexVeritas 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

but that we largely told the Israelis they are on their own if they want to do anything.

LOL?

We've been funding Israel, including their military, for decades. We've been fighting false flagged wars, on Israel's behalf, for decades.

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