End result of gynocentric societies
(twitter.com)
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
Comments (107)
sorted by:
The OP hoe_math himself is essentially a retired, aged out manwhore who has personally given up on women or a traditional family life as he approaches 40.
He's retreated to the woods with no friends or family and now hoards YT wealth by whining & doodling about the nature of women & shitlibs while forecasting the collapse of Western civilization.
He's like an anon Jordan Peterson wannabe with cleaner living but the same dysthymic & neurotic streaks.
That’s why he understands what’s happening.
I didn't say he was wrong.
Just giving context & origin story.
The problem with hoe_math is that he's great at making observations, but shit at giving advise.
He's begun to devolve into boomer-isms where he insists that getting together with your group of personal friends, forming a militia-like group, and banding together against the world will solve all your ills and get you the girl.
Which, uh, sounds great, except he keeps ignoring the fucking whale in the room and seems blind to anyone pointing out the downsides of this plan.
Agree for the most part re: the advice part.
What is the "'fucking whale in the room?", honest question?
The lack of actionable advice is a pitfall that befalls lots of influencers who suddenly find themselves as a leader for the disenfranchised.
Look at Jordan Peterson for one. He went from every young man's e-daddy to a drug-addled, sniveling Zio shill husk of a man denying that he's even a Christian real quick.
I think of Jeremy MacKenzie, the Canadian meme leader of Diagolon that emerged out of the trucker convoy. He's a Canadian Afghanistan vet who rose to somewhat viral fame with his controversial podcast with a decent following among middle-aged & fitness-minded purebloods.
But he mostly has shirked the mantle of providing solutions to a demographic that needs some whitepilling. Three years later, he's still just ranting on his podcast solo for donos, blackpilling, picking stupid Internet fights with potential allies & declaring there's no political solution & washing his hands of everything.
There's no leadership besides the tired old RW dissident tropes of hitting the gym & finding your frens.
hoe_math has a few problems when it comes to the advice part
He's not successful in life or romance himself besides his YT shekels. I've heard him openly tell people "Don't be like me. I'm miserable."
Though he recommends against being a promiscuous Chad of a young man, he's also very openly proud about his 12-15 year hoe phase himself. His main complaint about it is that he aged out & it's over. Other than his intelligence (which brought him near zero professional success before YT fame), he derives a lot of his self-worth from the fact that he was so fuckable in his younger days. Which is very feminine behavior.
Given his lack of professional success pre-YT (and his belief that numerous women rejected a LTR with him because of his low status & lack of wealth), his primary concern is making YT bank to make up for lost time.
isn't he the opposite of that? he says that sure he had abs and got the chicks, but that was otherwise sort of a piece of crap and that he regrets it.
He does tell people not to emulate his current life. But the problem is still that a lot of his self-worth and branding wrapped up in his years of being self-reportedly ridiculously successful and promiscuous on the casual sex market.
He laments a lot that he used to be "an eight" but now he's got old, isn't pretty enough anymore and doesn't get IRL attention from women like he used to when he was more cut (though he's still getting unsolicited offers in his DMs online because of his new fame & status as an e-celeb).
He also still gives advice to young men that it's fine to fool around with casual sex for a while like he did before getting serious because women like men with "experience".
So while he mostly lived a life of sexual depravity before going viral, he's only partially remorseful.
I'm sure if he had to do it again, he'd still rather have high body counts rather than be a hopeless loser incel like a lot of his audience.
TLDR, Government. Or society, if you prefer. They tend to blend together.
Credit where credit is due, he atleast admits this in his more recent posting. So, progress, I guess?
You just described with 100% accuracy the vast majority of mgtow men. Losers and washed up man whores who are upset they don't get strange puss so easily as it was in 2005
Wait what, he's fucking 40?!
He's either about to turn 40 or recently turned.
He talks a lot about being washed up & middle-aged in his livestreams where people ask him questions.
That's fucking sad
He could easily just buy a kid via surrogacy if he wanted to fill his void with something genuine
IIRC, he's one of those "I don't want kids unless she wants kids" types.