Because some men are still based and want to fight censorship and defend liberty. Despite all your antihuman efforts to the contrary.
Begone, feminist!
I have no interest in this game, but I think its removal is a travesty. People can play it or not.
Although I think porn is bad, porn games are already pretty far down the rabbit hole. Considering how much easier it is to just watch porn (which is its own issue), if you're going out of your way to play porn games, the damage is already done. So I don't care. I've always defended it on freedom grounds. Again, people can play it or not. Almost no one is going to get further porn-addicted by playing games, that's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.
We are so cooked...
As an aside, I fucking hate Modern™ language.
...fighting for their right to play a rape simulation game?
It's. Fucking. Fiction.
I have a right to play a rape game, just like I play a ton of "murder" games.
Fuck. Off. Feminist. Progressive. Retards.
I don’t know if anyone has ever said this to you but yall are rapists. Yall just haven’t raped yet.
Rich, coming from feminists who have been raping civilization for decades millennia, in one form or another.
I've never raped anyone, and never will. Fuckers like you have raped, pillaged, and destroyed my culture. So fuck right off.
Although I think porn is bad, porn games are already pretty far down the rabbit hole. Considering how much easier it is to just watch porn (which is its own issue), if you're going out of your way to play porn games, the damage is already done.
I'd be inclined to agree if the relations between the sexes were functional. As it stands ugly dudes do less damage to themselves playing porn games than allowing themselves to be put on the business end of a divorce rape.
I'm saying, whether you think porn is bad or not, porn games are further down the road than porn videos. The latter is much more accessible, so people probably start there. People aren't playing porn games and destroying themselves. Because (again, based on perspective), those people already probably overexposed themselves to standard porn.
Porn games are not the gateway, is my point.
If you ask someone how they got into porn, I'm guessing about zero percent would say "porn games."
Yeah, that's fair. I guess I just have a bit of a hair trigger for the anti-porn crowd missing the forest for the trees. They're not wrong, they're just a bit too focused a problem that's downstream from the real issue.
I'm not sure I'd lump myself into the anti-porn crowd, per se.
I acknowledge the dangers, I don't think it's a good thing, and I think the super pro-porn crowd are insane and broken people, but I've always defended it nonetheless, because I think the alternative - censorship and government interventionism - is a slippery slope to much worse things.
I don't like porn, but I think the issue is best addressed by discussion, not legislation, and I will always oppose criminalizing it. Just like I don't like the pro-porn crowd, I think the anti-porn crowd are retarded fanatics, who are on a very thin line to making things ever worse. This is one of those issues I'm somewhere in the middle on, and find myself arguing with both sides.
Steam didn't even ban it. The dev willingly took it off Steam after a few countries banned it to avoid getting Steam themselves into more controversy.
That fact keeps getting lost in all of this, but he gracefully and willingly took it down once shit started going sideways. Opinions on that option may vary, but it wasn't Steam at play.
Serves me right for not looking into it more, I suppose. Thanks for the clarification.
The dev willingly took it off Steam...
What a cuck!
That fact keeps getting lost in all of this, but he gracefully and willingly took it down once shit started going sideways. Opinions on that option may vary, but it wasn't Steam at play.
I mean, it's not his responsibility. I'd argue it's not graceful, it's self censorship. He owes nothing to Steam. If Steam wants to ban it, he should stick around and make them do that, not beat them to to the punch and ban his own game. That accomplishes nothing. Steam is much, much, much bigger than he is. It's not his duty to protect Steam, it's Steam's duty to protect him and their own integrity, or cave.
I give the dev zero credit on this. All he did was remove his own game from the biggest storefront.
I'd argue it's not graceful, it's self censorship.
I understand this opinion, and I don't think its wrong.
I think homie just made a cheap asset flip itch.io game for his gooning needs, and it became an international controversy. And rather than embroil himself in the culture war, he just bowed out.
If this was a legitimate game made with actual effort and skill, I'd lean more into your perspective. But given how zero effort and numerous games like this are on Steam, I don't think he even cared that much about protecting it himself. Heck his reasoning of "protecting Steam" could just be cope to make himself sound better.
it's Steam's duty to protect him and their own integrity, or cave.
Funnily enough that have good precedent of doing so, and likely would have here too. Heck last time one got this big of a stink (Hatred) Gaben himself descended to defend and reinstate it.
Unless it involves anime, then Steam is happy to ban anything because "possible loli scary."
I think homie just made a cheap asset flip itch.io game for his gooning needs...
I've played around with Ren'Py, which I believe this was made in. Although I'm sure it uses assets, it looks like far from a 'cheap asset flip.'
And rather than embroil himself in the culture war, he just bowed out.
Could have just ignored it. I'm not giving him any benefit of the doubt on this. He made a thing, no matter how anyone feels about that, and then didn't stand by it.
If this was a legitimate game made with actual effort and skill, I'd lean more into your perspective.
Haven't played it, but just looking at some of the info out there, I'd say this took effort and skill. As much as a non VN? No, but it still looks like it did the work for that genre, and is significantly better than a bunch of the stuff on Steam.
Funnily enough that have good precedent of doing so, and likely would have here too. Heck last time one got this big of a stink (Hatred) Gaben himself descended to defend and reinstate it.
Which just furthers the argument of the creator cucking. Not sure what he was thinking. Publicity is publicity, he should have left it on the platform until they either removed it or didn't.
I don't think its removal is a travesty - Steam bans all kinds of shit for stupid reasons - but the hypocritical "controversy" and grounds for removal here is. All this fake outrage really shines a light on the power feminists have over society though.
Because some men are still based and want to fight censorship and defend liberty.
You sound like the biggest faggot now, real men recognize that ultimate liberty leads to where you are today and that censorship is necessary in order to prevent this. If only the right and white men collectivized like this nowadays to purge the once called entartete kunst, things would be much better. You useless cuckservatives talk about liberties and freedom of speech while the left actively weaponizes these things against you and uses it to corrupt everything you like.
You keep ''defending liberty'' while your enemies want to strip them away from you openly you useless, stupid, 70 IQ cuck, and all that to defend what, a porn game? No surprise anyone who'd defend a porn game, let alone be a dev for one or play it is a colossal loser.
Because some men are still based and want to fight censorship and defend liberty. Despite all your antihuman efforts to the contrary.
Begone, feminist!
I have no interest in this game, but I think its removal is a travesty. People can play it or not.
Although I think porn is bad, porn games are already pretty far down the rabbit hole. Considering how much easier it is to just watch porn (which is its own issue), if you're going out of your way to play porn games, the damage is already done. So I don't care. I've always defended it on freedom grounds. Again, people can play it or not. Almost no one is going to get further porn-addicted by playing games, that's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.
As an aside, I fucking hate Modern™ language.
It's. Fucking. Fiction.
I have a right to play a rape game, just like I play a ton of "murder" games.
Fuck. Off. Feminist. Progressive. Retards.
Rich, coming from feminists who have been raping civilization for
decadesmillennia, in one form or another.I've never raped anyone, and never will. Fuckers like you have raped, pillaged, and destroyed my culture. So fuck right off.
I'd be inclined to agree if the relations between the sexes were functional. As it stands ugly dudes do less damage to themselves playing porn games than allowing themselves to be put on the business end of a divorce rape.
I'm saying, whether you think porn is bad or not, porn games are further down the road than porn videos. The latter is much more accessible, so people probably start there. People aren't playing porn games and destroying themselves. Because (again, based on perspective), those people already probably overexposed themselves to standard porn.
Porn games are not the gateway, is my point.
If you ask someone how they got into porn, I'm guessing about zero percent would say "porn games."
Yeah, that's fair. I guess I just have a bit of a hair trigger for the anti-porn crowd missing the forest for the trees. They're not wrong, they're just a bit too focused a problem that's downstream from the real issue.
I'm not sure I'd lump myself into the anti-porn crowd, per se.
I acknowledge the dangers, I don't think it's a good thing, and I think the super pro-porn crowd are insane and broken people, but I've always defended it nonetheless, because I think the alternative - censorship and government interventionism - is a slippery slope to much worse things.
I don't like porn, but I think the issue is best addressed by discussion, not legislation, and I will always oppose criminalizing it. Just like I don't like the pro-porn crowd, I think the anti-porn crowd are retarded fanatics, who are on a very thin line to making things ever worse. This is one of those issues I'm somewhere in the middle on, and find myself arguing with both sides.
Steam didn't even ban it. The dev willingly took it off Steam after a few countries banned it to avoid getting Steam themselves into more controversy.
That fact keeps getting lost in all of this, but he gracefully and willingly took it down once shit started going sideways. Opinions on that option may vary, but it wasn't Steam at play.
Serves me right for not looking into it more, I suppose. Thanks for the clarification.
What a cuck!
I mean, it's not his responsibility. I'd argue it's not graceful, it's self censorship. He owes nothing to Steam. If Steam wants to ban it, he should stick around and make them do that, not beat them to to the punch and ban his own game. That accomplishes nothing. Steam is much, much, much bigger than he is. It's not his duty to protect Steam, it's Steam's duty to protect him and their own integrity, or cave.
I give the dev zero credit on this. All he did was remove his own game from the biggest storefront.
I understand this opinion, and I don't think its wrong.
I think homie just made a cheap asset flip itch.io game for his gooning needs, and it became an international controversy. And rather than embroil himself in the culture war, he just bowed out.
If this was a legitimate game made with actual effort and skill, I'd lean more into your perspective. But given how zero effort and numerous games like this are on Steam, I don't think he even cared that much about protecting it himself. Heck his reasoning of "protecting Steam" could just be cope to make himself sound better.
Funnily enough that have good precedent of doing so, and likely would have here too. Heck last time one got this big of a stink (Hatred) Gaben himself descended to defend and reinstate it.
Unless it involves anime, then Steam is happy to ban anything because "possible loli scary."
I've played around with Ren'Py, which I believe this was made in. Although I'm sure it uses assets, it looks like far from a 'cheap asset flip.'
Could have just ignored it. I'm not giving him any benefit of the doubt on this. He made a thing, no matter how anyone feels about that, and then didn't stand by it.
Haven't played it, but just looking at some of the info out there, I'd say this took effort and skill. As much as a non VN? No, but it still looks like it did the work for that genre, and is significantly better than a bunch of the stuff on Steam.
Which just furthers the argument of the creator cucking. Not sure what he was thinking. Publicity is publicity, he should have left it on the platform until they either removed it or didn't.
the thing is, there are certain (((Exceptions))) to this rule, i.e a game where features shota and/or incest (See Kagura games)
i remember how years ago steam came out with an announcement "we are not the taste police" and then shortly after became the taste police
I don't think its removal is a travesty - Steam bans all kinds of shit for stupid reasons - but the hypocritical "controversy" and grounds for removal here is. All this fake outrage really shines a light on the power feminists have over society though.
You sound like the biggest faggot now, real men recognize that ultimate liberty leads to where you are today and that censorship is necessary in order to prevent this. If only the right and white men collectivized like this nowadays to purge the once called entartete kunst, things would be much better. You useless cuckservatives talk about liberties and freedom of speech while the left actively weaponizes these things against you and uses it to corrupt everything you like.
You keep ''defending liberty'' while your enemies want to strip them away from you openly you useless, stupid, 70 IQ cuck, and all that to defend what, a porn game? No surprise anyone who'd defend a porn game, let alone be a dev for one or play it is a colossal loser.