Steam didn't even ban it. The dev willingly took it off Steam after a few countries banned it to avoid getting Steam themselves into more controversy.
That fact keeps getting lost in all of this, but he gracefully and willingly took it down once shit started going sideways. Opinions on that option may vary, but it wasn't Steam at play.
Serves me right for not looking into it more, I suppose. Thanks for the clarification.
The dev willingly took it off Steam...
What a cuck!
That fact keeps getting lost in all of this, but he gracefully and willingly took it down once shit started going sideways. Opinions on that option may vary, but it wasn't Steam at play.
I mean, it's not his responsibility. I'd argue it's not graceful, it's self censorship. He owes nothing to Steam. If Steam wants to ban it, he should stick around and make them do that, not beat them to to the punch and ban his own game. That accomplishes nothing. Steam is much, much, much bigger than he is. It's not his duty to protect Steam, it's Steam's duty to protect him and their own integrity, or cave.
I give the dev zero credit on this. All he did was remove his own game from the biggest storefront.
I'd argue it's not graceful, it's self censorship.
I understand this opinion, and I don't think its wrong.
I think homie just made a cheap asset flip itch.io game for his gooning needs, and it became an international controversy. And rather than embroil himself in the culture war, he just bowed out.
If this was a legitimate game made with actual effort and skill, I'd lean more into your perspective. But given how zero effort and numerous games like this are on Steam, I don't think he even cared that much about protecting it himself. Heck his reasoning of "protecting Steam" could just be cope to make himself sound better.
it's Steam's duty to protect him and their own integrity, or cave.
Funnily enough that have good precedent of doing so, and likely would have here too. Heck last time one got this big of a stink (Hatred) Gaben himself descended to defend and reinstate it.
Unless it involves anime, then Steam is happy to ban anything because "possible loli scary."
I think homie just made a cheap asset flip itch.io game for his gooning needs...
I've played around with Ren'Py, which I believe this was made in. Although I'm sure it uses assets, it looks like far from a 'cheap asset flip.'
And rather than embroil himself in the culture war, he just bowed out.
Could have just ignored it. I'm not giving him any benefit of the doubt on this. He made a thing, no matter how anyone feels about that, and then didn't stand by it.
If this was a legitimate game made with actual effort and skill, I'd lean more into your perspective.
Haven't played it, but just looking at some of the info out there, I'd say this took effort and skill. As much as a non VN? No, but it still looks like it did the work for that genre, and is significantly better than a bunch of the stuff on Steam.
Funnily enough that have good precedent of doing so, and likely would have here too. Heck last time one got this big of a stink (Hatred) Gaben himself descended to defend and reinstate it.
Which just furthers the argument of the creator cucking. Not sure what he was thinking. Publicity is publicity, he should have left it on the platform until they either removed it or didn't.
I'll default to your much deeper knowledge then, and drop that point of view then.
Either way, some people just want to do things without being the newest battleground in the culture war and while that is a very cucked mindset, I'm unable to be truly hateful against them for that decision.
I'm not trying to ballwash him too much, but I just can't muster the emotion necessary to be critical of him willingly bowing out.
I haven't even heard much about it in years, and I can't tell if that's because everyone gave up trying to get past them or Steam did what it often does and just stopped enforcing it to defacto undo the rule.
Because I see plenty of high school games get by now, when that was the big contention back then.
Steam didn't even ban it. The dev willingly took it off Steam after a few countries banned it to avoid getting Steam themselves into more controversy.
That fact keeps getting lost in all of this, but he gracefully and willingly took it down once shit started going sideways. Opinions on that option may vary, but it wasn't Steam at play.
Serves me right for not looking into it more, I suppose. Thanks for the clarification.
What a cuck!
I mean, it's not his responsibility. I'd argue it's not graceful, it's self censorship. He owes nothing to Steam. If Steam wants to ban it, he should stick around and make them do that, not beat them to to the punch and ban his own game. That accomplishes nothing. Steam is much, much, much bigger than he is. It's not his duty to protect Steam, it's Steam's duty to protect him and their own integrity, or cave.
I give the dev zero credit on this. All he did was remove his own game from the biggest storefront.
I understand this opinion, and I don't think its wrong.
I think homie just made a cheap asset flip itch.io game for his gooning needs, and it became an international controversy. And rather than embroil himself in the culture war, he just bowed out.
If this was a legitimate game made with actual effort and skill, I'd lean more into your perspective. But given how zero effort and numerous games like this are on Steam, I don't think he even cared that much about protecting it himself. Heck his reasoning of "protecting Steam" could just be cope to make himself sound better.
Funnily enough that have good precedent of doing so, and likely would have here too. Heck last time one got this big of a stink (Hatred) Gaben himself descended to defend and reinstate it.
Unless it involves anime, then Steam is happy to ban anything because "possible loli scary."
I've played around with Ren'Py, which I believe this was made in. Although I'm sure it uses assets, it looks like far from a 'cheap asset flip.'
Could have just ignored it. I'm not giving him any benefit of the doubt on this. He made a thing, no matter how anyone feels about that, and then didn't stand by it.
Haven't played it, but just looking at some of the info out there, I'd say this took effort and skill. As much as a non VN? No, but it still looks like it did the work for that genre, and is significantly better than a bunch of the stuff on Steam.
Which just furthers the argument of the creator cucking. Not sure what he was thinking. Publicity is publicity, he should have left it on the platform until they either removed it or didn't.
I'll default to your much deeper knowledge then, and drop that point of view then.
Either way, some people just want to do things without being the newest battleground in the culture war and while that is a very cucked mindset, I'm unable to be truly hateful against them for that decision.
I'm not trying to ballwash him too much, but I just can't muster the emotion necessary to be critical of him willingly bowing out.
the thing is, there are certain (((Exceptions))) to this rule, i.e a game where features shota and/or incest (See Kagura games)
i remember how years ago steam came out with an announcement "we are not the taste police" and then shortly after became the taste police
I haven't even heard much about it in years, and I can't tell if that's because everyone gave up trying to get past them or Steam did what it often does and just stopped enforcing it to defacto undo the rule.
Because I see plenty of high school games get by now, when that was the big contention back then.