Orwell was right. Women are true believers
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The puzzle piece I can't figure out is how to re-assert control now that the state has made it illegal. I don't think you can successfully rally a political movement around overthrowing the government in order to put women back in the kitchen. People will pine for some mythical societal collapse but I don't think it's going to arrive in our lifetime. It'll be a slow agonizing burn that takes generations and make just hit an equilibrium at a much lower quality of life but never actually take the form of the sort of anarchy that allows for a new healthy society to rise from the ashes of the old one. We'll just be stuck with a shittier version of what already exists.
You know the answer but you've invested too much of your identity in hating Islam to be receptive to it.
Islam is right about women.
The church is not bloodthirsty or influential enough to make Islam's path viable.
I didn't say anything about the church.
If you think christianity is going to survive liberalism you're betting the lame donkey in a horse race.
Here's my prediction. By 2030, there will be an openly pro-sharia islamist party in Britain with at least 5 unassailable MEPs.
If you think you're going to get me to take the Shahada you've got another thing coming.
Why not just say what you want to say? I thought Quakers were against predestination/calvinism, so you're surely not saying "Islam is taking over so it must be God's will." You sound pessimistic.
It's more that Calvinists are "THIS IS HOW IT IS" and we're more like "eh, maybe".
In the face of how liberalism is utterly destroying our ability to form families, yes, I do believe that they have something right that we have wrong.
For christianity, yes. For humanity, no.
What's there to say? We all know the west is a ruined experiment corrupted by the assumption that women are equal in reasoning and morality to men when they absolutely are not. We can find no precedent or even support in our cultural foundation to justify the actions needed to fix this problem.
Those before us failed in headship while creating a culture that condemns any attempt to take back headship.