Is there any documented case of some middle class woman, tourist or not, getting abducted and forced into prostitution or sex slavery? Basically, has any part of the plot of Taken ever happened?
Not talking about third world slaves in Dubai. Not talking about Slavic victims of passport abuse. Or ISIS abducting aid workers. Or Dubai yacht girls. Or white slavers in the Ottoman empire. Or pimps brainwashing runaways. Or depraved psychopaths abducting joggers. Or clueless Eat Pray Lovers getting raped by retarded Indians.
I hear this all the time like it's a thing. For example I just read someone on X that asserted we can't hang pimps and prostitutes because some of them might be kidnapped women. But I've never read a real case with names and dates. It begs the question, did this ever happen or is it one of those folk tales that gets swept along with the human trafficking cause?
The closest thing I've heard of is Pakistani Britain where 12-year old girls were getting snatched off the street, but even then the ones that were turned out seem to be more victims of pimps.
edit: found what looks like an example of this happening. 15-year old girl abducted from a basketball game and found in a prostitution ring in another state. The cops mostly ignored this because the girl had run away from home before.
I kind of wonder if this is a pure stranger danger story considering the history of running away, the admitted marijuana addiction, and wandering off to a parking garage with a pretty obvious gangbanger, but it looks like that's what it is.
edit 2: OK, I have more doubts now. "They plied me with marijuana and I blacked out" uh... I don't think marijuana does that. Then after the failed police raid she wanders around and somehow falls in with another guy who rapes her as well. Really?
Am a little confused that Natalie said she had "a problem with marijuana and vaping and left to go find someone at the coliseum to smoke with." I cannot see how either of these properties would drive a person to abandon an event they attended with family, left the coliseum even, just to go vape with a stranger. I suspect she was doing something harder if addiction is why she left. Marijuana is not addictive (only habit forming) and vaping could have been done in the coliseum if they were sly about it.
No one lured Natalee, she approached him so she could get high. The story she told before was different, she even admitted that she was thinking about calling her parents.
Or she knew the guy she walked out with. Sounds like a loverboy scenario.
These things don't happen in the West.
Nah. Put yourself in the shoes of these criminals. Why would they do this shit in a feminist nation? And risk all that heat, prison time and other punishment? Better to just kidnap and enslave women in other countries. Better to make these women come to you in a nation where the authorities will turn a blind eye. Remember Epstein's island? They had women lure other women there for a reason. And not just grab women off the streets. Criminals would have to be extremely low IQ to think the ideal method is just grabbing random woman off the streets in a feminist country when it's so easy to lure women to a certain part of the world with promises of money or other things. Your average gold digger will fly to any location in this world as long as she thinks she is meeting a rich man and he pays for the plane ticket. In a real life version of Taken, they would try to lure his daughter to some location outside of France. Of course, the movie Taken is unrealistic on purpose because it's purpose to be like an entertaining horror movie that shocks and terrifies the audience, making them think, nowhere in this world is safe.
'Feminism' is all that prevents human trafficking?
Also, why do it in a feminist country? Ask the Pakistani grooming gangs in the UK.
I think the word 'grooming' is the subtle difference there. it typically involves long form indoctrination of the victim, whereas Taken is a brazen kidnapping entirely against the victim's will.
such kidnappings happen all the time, but they usually are perpetrated by low-tier criminals who immediately rape and torture the victim.
Risk versus reward. Why invest all your risk in kidnapping some rich Western girl when for the same amount of risk you could have 20 unknown Ukrainians or whatever?
Also the vast majority of what is called human trafficking begins with some degree of consent from the woman. They are not grabbed by marauding Ottomans or Mongols, branded, and slapped in chains.
I’m sure it happens with tourists, they just are missing presumed dead because they disappear into sex slavery, never to be seen again. Small number most likely, though. You’re better off getting women who are desperate enough to do it for the money, less likely (I’d presume, I’m not a trafficker) to cause issues?
The thing is, I'm not so sure. Not one case in all of recorded history? Missing tourists are murdered. Plenty of evidence of that.
I'm aware of one firsthand event in the midwest due to knowing several cops. Two university girls got abducted in the parking lot of the shopping mall right here in my town. A booth was set up by Pakistanis selling perfume, except when one of the girls came up for a "demo", if she was alone and the coast was clear, the rag with choloform came out instead. Both girls got recovered in Kansas City a couple days later, but it was kept out of the papers. According to the cops, if a big alert goes out for girls missing because of events like that, the perps will often immediately murder the victims to make their getaway easier (no baggage, no witnesses) and so there's an unspoken rule that they keep such events quiet and try to find the missing people on the down low.
I see you now also have experience with this most delightful of human peoples.
Yeah operationally cops ask for delayed coverage all the time, but after the girls are supposedly recovered and there's no proof it happened, you can't ask me to believe that.
Doubtful. You rightfully point out that all "sex trafficking" is exploiting willing whores. The kinds of things people like Andrew Tate get accused of. It's not a thing in modern civilization. Closest thing to it is probably Russian women having their passports stolen in Asian countries and Israel. But that isn't exactly the first world middle class situation you are asking about.
Its mostly grooming young girls from poor backgrounds or basically pimping out spic/slavic whores
Regular middle class White women don't get trafficked as often (unless they're addicted to drugs)
In the highly dramatized sense, probably rare enough that it wouldn't reach documentation. Either from just not being caught or not being taken seriously.
But you can go to most ghettos and find girls, often white girls, working the streets whose entire history is "started 'dating' a guy, he got me hooked on hard drugs, now he controls me with them." A lot of those white girls are tourists in their own country, because ghettos are just that fucking different of an existence and the "cool, charming black dude" approaching them is the same exotic beast as the Italian or Slav would be in Europe from those movies. Or they simply tried to do something daddy hated and fell into a web.
They aren't as "perfect victim" as those narratives push, because there is a lot of willingness on thier part to walk into the trap, but the end result is 90% the same.
I still don't feel too bad for them, because even if they are "victims" they are often contributing to all sorts of evil themselves. Usually by having a lot of neglected or abused children.
Human trafficking is an extended version of "think of the children" in western countries. They use it to justify jailing men for oferring to pay for sexual favors or setting up honey pot massage parlours (women/tradcons love this) and to build out a general police state.
There are some large threads on Kiwifarms discussing institutionalized child abue at Rehab work camps run by religious groups out in Utah that seems to have merit, they also seem to have found ties to local LE and the glowies.
It happens, but it isn't talked about, like at all. I can tell you South Florida is full of this. Girls will literally be kidnapped off the street and forced into prostitution in some other area (Tampa is full of them). But nobody gets arrested and it's never reported in the news. People make excuses that it's because of tourism and how the news would negatively impact tourism in Miami. But the entire area is full of (((them))). Remember this was also an area where Epstein was very active in.
I think the reason you haven't heard of it is because those stories (like the rest of the internet) is slowly being erased, either literally or sites like google refuse to show them in their results.
Here's an example.
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/man-appears-in-court-over-alleged-human-trafficking-of-teen-girl-missing-since-2021/3218223/
https://www.wptv.com/news/palm-beach-county/region-c-palm-beach-county/2-arrested-in-commercial-sex-trafficking-of-15-year-old-palm-beach-county-sheriffs-office-says
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/12/07/trafficker-lured-woman-to-south-florida-then-pimp-held-her-1-year-old-hostage-prosecutors-say/
From this article:
That's the loverboy method. It's horrible victimization, but it's not the scenario I'm talking about. Second article is also a runaway. So girls are susceptible to this if they leave home at 13, as they always were.
Third article is a retard single mother that went to Miami because a Jew promised her a job where she could be a "pretty girl riding in limos."
The South Florida party girl to crack whore pipeline
Local criminal groups generally profit from tourist areas, so it's in their best interests if those areas have a reputation for being safe. Not to say nothing happens there, and of course all bets are off when a tourist wanders out of the tourism area.
It's not common outside of the UK. Normally middle class women aren't trafficked just raped and murdered when they go to dangerous places
I'm a 'hope for the best, plan for the worst' kind of mindset so while others try to argue that 'feminist countries wouldn't stand for it/too risky' or that 'criminals are too intelligent to try while others too low IQ to be successful', I think there's a good chance some have succeeded.
Just look at the rainbow indoctrination, is that not a way to abduct slowly those from middle class families kids to groom them into the sex industry? I'm also sure there's some who have SOLD their kids into the sex industry too. Never think that being of a higher class grants the morality not to do shit like this. As for forced abduction and prostitution, possible if we suspect any group suicides of families as suspect..
As in, we suspect some official stories are false so the complement could very well be true?
When it comes to Epstein and "hotdog parties" we have plenty of evidence that young children are being trafficked, although it's not legally probative. I have never seen a shred of evidence that normal white girls have been press ganged into prostitution.
What does happen is young boys are lured away into the gay cult and then forced into being prostitutes.
Fresh Out on Youtube has warned people about aspiring actors getting turned out in Hollywood for a while. Apparently the afterparty is where people really get suckered in. Diddy is just the tip of the iceberg.
I can't recall the exact case name.. but this happened in Orlando Florida around Old Blossom Trail and the child of my friend's client.
They had a daughter in the early teens with a learning disability. She had ran away from home and got picked up. They drugged her, tied her to a bed and sold her body a dozen times a day. This went on for over a week.
But because of her own disorder and misunderstanding of the situation she was in, and they letting their guard down around her, she managed to escape and the cops found her.
They rescued multiple women.
It honestly happens more than people realize. It just doesn't make the news. And happens in the shit parts of the USA everyone ignores or in the nice areas and they're trying to keep it quiet to not disrupt things. Just Google 'human trafficking bust' wherever... They just don't give you the story of every woman rescued.
But just imagine that for a second.. 15 minutes from where you live, there could be someone's daughter strapped to a bed, drugged and being sexually abused multiple times a day by some gang members high fiving one another as they make her scream and bleed...
Wasn't this part of the pakistani rape gangs in UK? Took girls using taxi or uber and then take them above kebab shops to get raped by others?
Afaik the girls who were snatched off the street and raped 12 times weren't turned out afterwards. It was the girls who were seduced and plied with drugs that were prostitutes.
Logistically it doesn't seem like you can have a prostitute work for you if they go to the cops. So you have to have some blackmail on them, financial, emotional, or otherwise.