A core lie of the democrat party
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The doctors are merely 'aiding' them? Now, I'm not an expert on the mechanics, but I'm pretty sure the mothers don't have to do that much.
I mean, this is a "muh climate is more important than the Mona Lisa so let's vandalize it". Even if I wanted to prevent as many abortions as possible, and I don't because many people who shouldn't reproduce would, I wouldn't go about doing it in the most counterproductive way possible.
I agree. If it's murder, which I don't think it is, then the mother is as responsible as the doctor. But of course, you're not going to get very far making that argument, because there is a difference between a fertilized egg and an embryo and a 'child'.
Mothers are the main drivers of the abortion the doctors in this argument literally act as a tool of the whims of the mother. No different than a pistol or abortion pill.
I’ve done this sad debate with you over and over, there isn’t any distinctive human difference between a newborn and a fetus, the only difference is an emotional attachment versus a trained disassociation.
Abortion pills don't have agency. People do. If one believes that it's murder, they're more like hitmen.
Please note that I specified fertilized egg and embryo. I don't believe in late-term abortions, and I do think that that is murder.
You do get that the egg is only fertilized for less than 24 hours before becoming a zygote? Also you’re misunderstanding embryo, by all scientific definitions the fetus stage is reached by week 9 and usually starts in week 5. Week 5 is when brain tissue is formed and when fetal heartbeat occurs. Again there isn’t any distinctive difference aside from an emotional argument.
Week 9 still isn't late-term. And I think you'll admit that there is quite a massive difference between week 9 and a newborn.
"When you're losing an argument, just Gish Gallop away from it and pretend that you've won."
While I'm not anti-abortion (I think it's probably an unavoidable but necessary evil, though I'm pretty convinced at this point that it's far more damaging to women than just having the baby would have been), I am consistently embarrassed when hearing the arguments from the pro-abortion side as they slide goalposts from field to field to rink to court to course as they dodge the morality question.
I can't say I've had that experience, but I do know you're a big fan of mine.
Probably. Having kids changes women for the better. The question is whether we want even more children of single mothers running around and being criminals. I say no.
Funny, I have the same feeling. For example, "IT'S HER OWN BODY". Not really, it is a separate organism. The question is if you believe this is developed enough to deserve rights.