To the surprise of nobody who has been watching them for years. Farage is just another grifter who only cares about maintain the status quo he can continue to rally against and get paid doing it.
Nevermind just Farage, the chairman who co-signed on this sham dismissal is Muhammad Ziauddin Yusuf, an ex Goldman Sachs executive. That's who the supposed right wing populist British political party chose as chairman.
Farage wants to present himself as the party of accepting minorities and women so he can be accepted by the establishment and fend off any allegations of racism and misogyny. What he has ended up doing is becoming another arm of the Uniparty.
Meet Reform. Another wing of the Uniparty which all roads lead to.
Funny how when Lowe made legitimate criticism of how Reform was run, they instantly hit him with the tried and true smear regarding behaviour and violence against women that the establishment likes to use against their critics because they know the public will side with the women.
Even GB News is towing the Reform line from what I can see.
Another case of "you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". Reform became the establishment.
This can be a trap to delay until you're past the event horizon. At some point non-violent attempts are no longer real options and just the illusion of an option that has not yet been exhausted. I can't say whether that's currently the case or not, but I think that conceptual threshold exists.
This can be a trap to delay until you're past the event horizon
Yes, and I fear we already are. The fact that they're canceling presidential elections with impunity, and banning from election the guy who beat their sorry asses, makes me feel like American after Jan 6.
The thing is, if there were an effort made that had a reasonable chance of success, a reasonable person might answer differently. But a lot of glowies seem to be arguing: GRAB A GUN NOW AND GO SHOOT AT PEOPLE.
Which accomplishes nothing and gives them yet more excuses to crack down on their opposition.
gives them yet more excuses to crack down on their opposition
There's ample evidence that an excuse isn't required. This is always my beef with this argument. It's the old adage, If the penalty for being late is the same penalty for revolt, then why not revolt once you're late.
So I'm sure they want to crack down, but cracking down without a casus belli leads to a reaction. Look at Turkey and the aftermath of the Gulen coup attempt, for example. I'm sure Erdogan wanted to crack down before, but he was only able to get away with it afterwards. Or the US Injustice system after Jan 6.
What I mean to say is that trying and failing just strengthens the ruling order. If you're going to aim at the king and all.
And I know that this is probably an excuse for people to not put their comfortable lives at risk, myself included, but I also think that it's true at this moment.
Ok, I guess I can see that. I just think the constant refrain of "don't resist the abuse or your abuser will have an excuse to abuse you" doesn't sit right and conditions meek and defeatist behavior. Maybe the response shouldn't be "put up with it for now" so much as it should be "ok, time to destroy the entirety of society because this isn't working anymore." Just go for a wholly disproportionate response.
The missing ingredient here is identifying an effective response and coordinating it. I agree that individuals just lashing out in anger serves zero purpose, so there needs to be something more thought out before action of any sort gets taken.
I just think the constant refrain of "don't resist the abuse or your abuser will have an excuse to abuse you" doesn't sit right and conditions meek and defeatist behavior
Resistance comes in many forms. I'm not sure as to how credible they are, so take it with the appropriate amount of salt, but there has been research suggesting that non-violent democratic resistance movements are more effective than violent ones.
There is a vast realm between "do nothing" and "take up arms and start shooting at the nearest government employee". I believe in doing everything to discredit the established order in the meantime.
I do share your annoyance that people here, in an understandable effort to avoid entrapment, opposed any sort of protest because they thought it would be another Jan 6.
Just go for a wholly disproportionate response.
To be honest, I'm not sure your second example is disproportionate.
The missing ingredient here is identifying an effective response and coordinating it.
I can tell you that while Europeans are extremely fed up with the established order, they are not going to rise up just yet. Maybe in 10 years. Maybe in 20 years. Maybe never. But a failed attempt, the abusers would have yet more excuse to abuse us, and we would all be forced to condemn it - all the attention would move from ruling class abuses to the alleged abuses of one loner.
So I'm open-minded. I'm not on principle opposed to anything. A dying man will grasp at anything. But I don't see a realistic path.
Discriminatory remarks made about women, including reference to a perceived disability.
...Are Lee Anderson and Zia Yusuf saying being a woman is a perceived disability? Because that phrasing seems rather derogatory and discriminatory to me.
To the surprise of nobody who has been watching them for years. Farage is just another grifter who only cares about maintain the status quo he can continue to rally against and get paid doing it.
Nevermind just Farage, the chairman who co-signed on this sham dismissal is Muhammad Ziauddin Yusuf, an ex Goldman Sachs executive. That's who the supposed right wing populist British political party chose as chairman.
Farage wants to present himself as the party of accepting minorities and women so he can be accepted by the establishment and fend off any allegations of racism and misogyny. What he has ended up doing is becoming another arm of the Uniparty.
A traditional British name.
Get a load of this smug cunt:
https://x.com/TalkTV/status/1897766102081360005?s=19
Meet Reform. Another wing of the Uniparty which all roads lead to.
Funny how when Lowe made legitimate criticism of how Reform was run, they instantly hit him with the tried and true smear regarding behaviour and violence against women that the establishment likes to use against their critics because they know the public will side with the women.
Even GB News is towing the Reform line from what I can see.
Another case of "you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". Reform became the establishment.
Are these fake like the Julian Assange “rape” charges?
The UK government always uses the same playbook when oppressing its own people.
Oh, you thought they'd let you vote out of this mess? No, whitey, your options are flight, gulag, or revolution. Prepare for what's coming.
Your ilk said the same thing when you were trying to discourage people from voting for Trump.
Exhaust all peaceful means.
This can be a trap to delay until you're past the event horizon. At some point non-violent attempts are no longer real options and just the illusion of an option that has not yet been exhausted. I can't say whether that's currently the case or not, but I think that conceptual threshold exists.
Yes, and I fear we already are. The fact that they're canceling presidential elections with impunity, and banning from election the guy who beat their sorry asses, makes me feel like American after Jan 6.
The thing is, if there were an effort made that had a reasonable chance of success, a reasonable person might answer differently. But a lot of glowies seem to be arguing: GRAB A GUN NOW AND GO SHOOT AT PEOPLE.
Which accomplishes nothing and gives them yet more excuses to crack down on their opposition.
There's ample evidence that an excuse isn't required. This is always my beef with this argument. It's the old adage, If the penalty for being late is the same penalty for revolt, then why not revolt once you're late.
So I'm sure they want to crack down, but cracking down without a casus belli leads to a reaction. Look at Turkey and the aftermath of the Gulen coup attempt, for example. I'm sure Erdogan wanted to crack down before, but he was only able to get away with it afterwards. Or the US Injustice system after Jan 6.
What I mean to say is that trying and failing just strengthens the ruling order. If you're going to aim at the king and all.
And I know that this is probably an excuse for people to not put their comfortable lives at risk, myself included, but I also think that it's true at this moment.
Ok, I guess I can see that. I just think the constant refrain of "don't resist the abuse or your abuser will have an excuse to abuse you" doesn't sit right and conditions meek and defeatist behavior. Maybe the response shouldn't be "put up with it for now" so much as it should be "ok, time to destroy the entirety of society because this isn't working anymore." Just go for a wholly disproportionate response.
The missing ingredient here is identifying an effective response and coordinating it. I agree that individuals just lashing out in anger serves zero purpose, so there needs to be something more thought out before action of any sort gets taken.
Resistance comes in many forms. I'm not sure as to how credible they are, so take it with the appropriate amount of salt, but there has been research suggesting that non-violent democratic resistance movements are more effective than violent ones.
There is a vast realm between "do nothing" and "take up arms and start shooting at the nearest government employee". I believe in doing everything to discredit the established order in the meantime.
I do share your annoyance that people here, in an understandable effort to avoid entrapment, opposed any sort of protest because they thought it would be another Jan 6.
To be honest, I'm not sure your second example is disproportionate.
I can tell you that while Europeans are extremely fed up with the established order, they are not going to rise up just yet. Maybe in 10 years. Maybe in 20 years. Maybe never. But a failed attempt, the abusers would have yet more excuse to abuse us, and we would all be forced to condemn it - all the attention would move from ruling class abuses to the alleged abuses of one loner.
So I'm open-minded. I'm not on principle opposed to anything. A dying man will grasp at anything. But I don't see a realistic path.
https://nitter.net/Sargon_of_Akkad/status/1898078933561606510?s=19
...Are Lee Anderson and Zia Yusuf saying being a woman is a perceived disability? Because that phrasing seems rather derogatory and discriminatory to me.
Wonder why they even bothered to invent false allegations, wanting to deport illegals is enough to get you thrown out of Conform.