That's not true, in fact, this is exactly what he wanted, and I've been trying to tell people this is 100% the correct course for years.
The Federalists tried pulling all the same shit that the Democrats did because they were anti-Liberal, government first, authoritarian freaks. It's why Hamilton got a musical.
The Alien & Sedition Acts were passed to, theoretically, protect the country from illegal migration; but it instead was used to crush political dissent by banning criticism. Hundreds of people were imprisoned, in direct violation of the 1st Amendment, for insulting the president, congress, and the Federalists. Including shutting down whole newspapers. Jefferson ran his campaign on mass pardons for everyone who were rounded up and arrested, including his own supporters. He did not appeal to court rulings because a) SCOTUS did not have the right to overturn congressional law; b) it was the responsibility of the executive not to enforce illegal and unconstitutional laws. When he won, and the Democratic-Republicans won both houses of congress, they immediately re-wrote the Alien & Sedition Acts, and Jefferson pardoned everyone. That should remind you a lot of what Trump did with the J6'ers because it's the same thing.
Your mentality is actually one of the reasons why all this happened in the first place. These acts were passed under John Adams who explicitly stated that even though the thought the laws may have been unconstitutional, he didn't believe it was the right of the executive to veto laws passed by both houses of congress. "Well it was Democratically done, and the president shouldn't have this power!" is provably wrong, no matter how much I like Adams.
As for clearing the Deep State, this is exactly what Jefferson tried to do again. In Marbury v. Madison; Madison was Jefferson's cabinet pick, but Marbury was Adams' cabinet pick. Marbury claimed he couldn't be removed from office because his term was for 4 years. Madison sued and the case went straight to SCOTUS because it's basically original jurisdiction and I don't think there were other federal courts or federal appellate courts.
Unfortunately, this is where SCOTUS gave itself the power to overturn law at the discretion of 4 justices (there were 7 total at the time). They did not have that power before. The original intent was for Jefferson to do what he did. SCOTUS did correctly point out that the cabinet and executive branch appointees only exist at the pleasure of the President, so go fuck yourself Marbury. This is what allowed Jefferson to purge the executive branch of Federalists, preventing any further enforcement of illegal laws, while the Democratic-Republican congress finished the job in the Legislative branch. He decided not to argue SCOTUS's point because now law had actually been overturned, and the immediate threat was the Federalists not the Judiciary.
Trump isn't going against Jefferson, he's fucking replicating his efforts.
I was wrong, it’s 3 million of you included DoD non military personnel. We have 750k civilian DoD workers. There’s 2 million servicemen. So 5 million in total.
Unless you are a specialist in your role, always take the package. Sometimes even if you are irreplaceable, take the package. Because the office will be so downsized you'll be forced to relo to a new building/state anyhow.
Wonder how many are thinking they'll just finagle a job with one of their vendors or companies they regulate.
Since they only have to be off the government teat for five years before they can reapply most are probably thinking they'll sidle back up to the trough during the next uniparty administration.
I mean they were offering full pay and benefits and no work through 31 Dec if you were retirement eligible. So, anyone already retiring this year could take the offer and stop working now and get the same pay they would have had for working the whole year. Likewise anyone already planning to resign before 30 Sep- it's just free money for them.
Imagine how aghast Thomas Jefferson would be at the fact that there are even 40k Federal employees.
"Oh, good, you terminated all 40 thousand of them. Wait... what do you mean, they need to find new jobs? You said they were term... oh."
I’m sure he would be far more concerned with how comfortable we have become with the presidents ruling through executive fiat.
Unfortunately, Jefferson himself fell afoul of that with the Louisiana Purchase.
To be fair that was the most one sidedly beneficial major action a president has ever taken.
That's not true, in fact, this is exactly what he wanted, and I've been trying to tell people this is 100% the correct course for years.
The Federalists tried pulling all the same shit that the Democrats did because they were anti-Liberal, government first, authoritarian freaks. It's why Hamilton got a musical.
The Alien & Sedition Acts were passed to, theoretically, protect the country from illegal migration; but it instead was used to crush political dissent by banning criticism. Hundreds of people were imprisoned, in direct violation of the 1st Amendment, for insulting the president, congress, and the Federalists. Including shutting down whole newspapers. Jefferson ran his campaign on mass pardons for everyone who were rounded up and arrested, including his own supporters. He did not appeal to court rulings because a) SCOTUS did not have the right to overturn congressional law; b) it was the responsibility of the executive not to enforce illegal and unconstitutional laws. When he won, and the Democratic-Republicans won both houses of congress, they immediately re-wrote the Alien & Sedition Acts, and Jefferson pardoned everyone. That should remind you a lot of what Trump did with the J6'ers because it's the same thing.
Your mentality is actually one of the reasons why all this happened in the first place. These acts were passed under John Adams who explicitly stated that even though the thought the laws may have been unconstitutional, he didn't believe it was the right of the executive to veto laws passed by both houses of congress. "Well it was Democratically done, and the president shouldn't have this power!" is provably wrong, no matter how much I like Adams.
As for clearing the Deep State, this is exactly what Jefferson tried to do again. In Marbury v. Madison; Madison was Jefferson's cabinet pick, but Marbury was Adams' cabinet pick. Marbury claimed he couldn't be removed from office because his term was for 4 years. Madison sued and the case went straight to SCOTUS because it's basically original jurisdiction and I don't think there were other federal courts or federal appellate courts.
Unfortunately, this is where SCOTUS gave itself the power to overturn law at the discretion of 4 justices (there were 7 total at the time). They did not have that power before. The original intent was for Jefferson to do what he did. SCOTUS did correctly point out that the cabinet and executive branch appointees only exist at the pleasure of the President, so go fuck yourself Marbury. This is what allowed Jefferson to purge the executive branch of Federalists, preventing any further enforcement of illegal laws, while the Democratic-Republican congress finished the job in the Legislative branch. He decided not to argue SCOTUS's point because now law had actually been overturned, and the immediate threat was the Federalists not the Judiciary.
Trump isn't going against Jefferson, he's fucking replicating his efforts.
How many are there in total though?
Something like 2 million if I remember correctly. But 40k in the first month is a good step forward.
That’s non-military I assume, or is that including the military?
I was wrong, it’s 3 million of you included DoD non military personnel. We have 750k civilian DoD workers. There’s 2 million servicemen. So 5 million in total.
[dumb as hell joke incoming]...we've achieved the warhammer...
The real Warhammer 40K was the friends we made along the way... and the feds we got fired.
never apologize for making dumb jokes
maybe, but I do feel an obligation to at least warn people if I think a joke is especially dumb, lol
We're going to send in the Night Haunter to clean out the rest.
The smart ones who knew what it meant. Now the holdouts can be RIFd without an 8 month severance.
Unless you are a specialist in your role, always take the package. Sometimes even if you are irreplaceable, take the package. Because the office will be so downsized you'll be forced to relo to a new building/state anyhow.
Wonder how many are thinking they'll just finagle a job with one of their vendors or companies they regulate.
Since they only have to be off the government teat for five years before they can reapply most are probably thinking they'll sidle back up to the trough during the next uniparty administration.
I mean they were offering full pay and benefits and no work through 31 Dec if you were retirement eligible. So, anyone already retiring this year could take the offer and stop working now and get the same pay they would have had for working the whole year. Likewise anyone already planning to resign before 30 Sep- it's just free money for them.
I wonder what percentage of the 40K those were.
My dads retiring from the post office.. but i heard its only 15k payout, which doesnt sound right when the yearly salary was almost 60k.