This lost all credibility about halfway through. This is a hit piece, and I think it's silly to post it here. Feel how you want about Cernovich - as I said, he certainly has problems - but posting hit pieces from who I imagine are our enemies, who probably think we're all just as bad as they make Cernovich out to be, is not productive.
"Pizzagate" got blown out of proportion, and there were false conspiracies floating around, but anyone who use "they supported Pizzagate conspiracies" as an attack on someone immediately loses all credibility. There obviously is an elite pedophilia problem.
Also, Roy Moore isn't a pedophile (as far as I know), and anyone who uses that smear also immediately loses credibility, and outs themselves as a leftist. It's just like TDS; anyone who repeats the most ridiculous smears about Trump, and accepts them as fact because legacy media said it, is a retard.
And Cernovich "denying ever having talked about Pizzagate" was, at least based on that clip, him denying ever having talked about children in a dungeon under a specific pizza parlor. Now, I don't know if that's true or not, but it's still vastly different than denying talking about Pizzagate.
Also, his "rape" and "anti-woman" tweets were seemingly at worst edgy jokes. I don't care. Again, this just reeks of performative leftist screeching, and I feel cheated that I read through it, since it led in with the more grounded stuff before going off that wall.
TL;DR: This whole thing is just a crappy hit piece by some angry leftist or, if not a leftist, an absolutely deranged rightwinger who has no values and will immediately sink to repeating leftist smears as if they were fact.
TL;DR: This whole thing is just a crappy hit piece by some angry leftist or, if not a leftist, an absolutely deranged rightwinger who has no values and will immediately sink to repeating leftist smears as if they were fact.
Spiritually there's not really much difference between a perma-raged, loss-addicted right winger and a civilizational-cancer, ultra-smug leftist except the right wing guy can think and type racial slurs.
This lost all credibility about halfway through. This is a hit piece, and I think it's silly to post it here. Feel how you want about Cernovich - as I said, he certainly has problems - but posting hit pieces from who I imagine are our enemies, who probably think we're all just as bad as they make Cernovich out to be, is not productive.
I don't see this as that sacred, but this is the OP's bio
I grew up with mainstream media informing me only Whites can be racist. College professors confirmed it.
Social media came around and I saw: They hate us.
Not a leftist
And Cernovich "denying ever having talked about Pizzagate" was, at least based on that clip, him denying ever having talked about children in a dungeon under a specific pizza parlor. Now, I don't know if that's true or not, but it's still vastly different than denying talking about Pizzagate.
Bro, that was the Pizzagate claim. The whole point was that children were being abused in Comet Ping Pong's basement.
I missed the Roy Moore part, still can't skim it, but the major point is that Cerno is a divorce-made man, tranny enjoyer, and maybe moonlighted in gay porn. He's lost all credibility to attack anyone on the right.
Then, as I said, a retarded rightwinger who is willing to take leftist smears as true if it helps him attack someone. That's just as bad as a leftist.
Bro, that was the Pizzagate claim. The whole point was that children were being abused in Comet Ping Pong's basement.
That was a part of it. But it was also just the general elite pedophilia stuff and, as Cernovich said, Podesta and his ilk being massively evil creeps. I'm not sure the order of events, but the Ping Pong shit seemed like a distraction. Although that hard drive shooting was bizarre.
...but the major point is that Cerno is a divorce-made man, tranny enjoyer, and maybe moonlighted in gay porn. He's lost all credibility to attack anyone on the right.
Never argued otherwise. This is still a retarded, smear-laden hit piece, with zero credibility.
That was a part of it. But it was also just the general elite pedophilia stuff and, as Cernovich said, Podesta and his ilk being massively evil creeps. I'm not sure the order of events, but the Ping Pong shit seemed like a distraction. Although that hard drive shooting was bizarre.
The Ping Pong thing was a major part of it, not a distraction. That's why it's called Pizzagate! Between the IG posts of taped down children, Satanic bands, bizarre imagery, weirdly finished basement, and the owner inexplicably being a top 50 "most influential person" in DC, there was a lot of smoke.
Oh yeah and some fed plant came in with a gun and shot the hard drives while missing everyone else, and everyone promptly forgot about the case. OK.
Never argued otherwise. This is still a retarded, smear-laden hit piece, with zero credibility.
Those 3 things being true (which it seems they are) is the most important part. I don't care about the rest
Also this guy who's only publicly known feats were owning two small pizza shops was listed by WaPo as one of the 50 most influential people in Washington, the seat of power in one of the most powerful countries on Earth.
It was never explained why.
Sure it could have been that he was friends with the reporter that wrote the list and put in on a lark, or it could have been the mask slipping.
It was also used as code by some pedophiles and, famously, some internet jackass called Dr Pizza vehemently attacked "Pizzagate" people and said 'no, pizza isn't any sort of code'...before getting busted for trying to solicit sex from minors. And, since that can be pretty vague...I'm talking 7 and 9 year olds.
What if I alleged that Coca Cola is code for child rape, and 1000 people disagreed with that, and one of those people was arrested for child rape a few years afterwards?
Is there any actual confirmed case of pedophiles using 'Cheese Pizza' as code? And is there any reason to believe this is in any way commonplace?
Is there any actual confirmed case of pedophiles using 'Cheese Pizza' as code?
Plenty. A bunch of "MAPs" had Pizza in their bios, or posted about pizza while also clearly liking underage people. How widespread, I don't know, but it was clearly a thing to some people.
FBI and other groups have lists of other codes for pedophilia, why would it be so outlandish that pizza is also something they use? There was certainly a fair bit of crossover between pizza lovers and child lovers.
Podestas mentioned pizza numerous times, in odd contexts, too.
Now, yeah, some of that stuff was retarded sperging, and people forcing connections where they weren't, but it does seem that there is a nonzero connection between pizza and pedophilia.
Do you have substantiation of this? Or is this like the children's torture basements of a pizzeria that did not have a basement?
Oh yeah and some fed plant came in with a gun and shot the hard drives while missing everyone else, and everyone promptly forgot about the case. OK.
That guy was shot and killed last week. Now, I'm sure you think that happened to shut him up or something.
and the owner inexplicably being a top 50 "most influential person" in DC
Do you mean a list created by GQ? I wouldn't exactly look to GQ to accurately determine who is and isn't influential. But by the way, do you also have a charming conspiracy theory for why Svetlana Legetic is inexplicably even higher up on the list? Russian collusion perhaps?
Do you have substantiation of this? Or is this like the children's torture basements of a pizzeria that did not have a basement?
Yes, I saw the photos on IG with my own eyes.
That guy was shot and killed last week. Now, I'm sure you think that happened to shut him up or something.
And you posted this because... you think it helps you?
Do you mean a list created by GQ? I wouldn't exactly look to GQ to accurately determine who is and isn't influential. But by the way, do you also have a charming conspiracy theory for why Svetlana Legetic is inexplicably even higher up on the list? Russian collusion perhaps?
Who would you look to determine who's influential, Forbes? Your barber? They're all the same broseph
You'll have to forgive me for not blindly believing you. Can you provide some receipts?
And you posted this because... you think it helps you?
Me? No. It's not that great for your cause though. You were clearly saying that he intentionally shot the hard drives. (Leaving aside for a moment your belief that they were keeping hard drives full of child porn... in their restaurant?) So he was in on the Conspiracy, right? And yet 9 years after, they kill him to shut him up? There's got to be some sort of limit to even your ability to spin everything into a conspiracy.
Turns out, he was just a nutcase.
Who would you look to determine who's influential, Forbes? Your barber? They're all the same broseph
All equally worthless, though my barber would probably do a better job than a fashion magazine.
No it wasn't. The Pizzagate claim was that a Democrat goon whose emails were leaked was speaking in code. The "there's a sex dungeon under a pizza parlour" claim was the one the media pushed to discredit Pizzagate instead of attacking the original claim.
It's got a lot of problems. I feel annoyed I wasted time on this bullshit. It seemed pointed but not retarded most of the way through, then just absolutely fell apart.
Now, to be very clear, this isn't me siding with Cernovich, who definitely does have problems, but siding against the spiteful lefty (presumably) mutant who wrote this hit piece.
Countersignaling pizzagate and the MRA tweets is lefty. The rest is completely fair though. Cernovich spent the last few days heavily implying he bootstrapped himself to success. He doesn't deserve influence.
attacks him for being attracted to a successful woman, exploring his sexual core, using medication for a disease, being physically attacked by a group, having a speech impediment, being civil and blocking people looking to using social media to attack him, being against the sexual abuse of children and stating what he was against is not just a silly conspiracy theory which the media tried to claim it was.
Not sure if you're being ironic or not, but that's really not how I'd frame things...
I don't really remember much of Cernovich, but I am also against bullshit journalism which appears to be little smear jobs in progress until they just drop the act and do shit like this.
If you do something they dislike, they'll comb your life with a fine toothed comb and rejoice in finding something juicy to chew on. It's the only investigative journalism they actually do. Which proves that when properly motivated, they can kinda sorta do the job.
But only if it's to take a big steaming dump on someone they don't like.
Fucking high school mean girl social club etiquette for fully grown adults is absolutely peak pathetic levels.
My god, the right sure attracts basketcases. And no, not Cernovich, but this anonymous character with an axe to grind. And you guys say the left eats itself, when you mindlessly upvote this crap.
For one, divorce settlements are not 'ripping off' anyone. It's your legal right. You may disagree with it, but his wife would have used it against him if it was to her advantage, so you can hardly begrudge him using it.
I guess you were asleep this week and missed why this is a topic. Cernovich is currently ranting that zoomers are lazy and just need to work their way up like him because everyone is still mad that the technocrats want us to compete with H-1B replacements. Need I say more?
That makes more sense. Still, this is a very stupid hitpiece, because it spins everything in the worst possible way. It's one thing to argue that someone who got a divorce payout cannot say that he worked himself up. It's quite another to say that he 'ripped off' his wife, and to bring up 9 dubious and irrelevant other things that have no bearing at all on the discussion.
Too bad then, I'm not apologizing for the truth. All 50% divorce settlements are ripoffs. You aren't entitled to half your spouse's wealth because they decided to marry you.
He's a difficult guy to discuss because lots of unstable right wing retards already have strong opinions about him, so the high verbal people who can form and coherently express opinions like "he's generally right/directionally right about most things, has done a lot of good for right wing movements including getting the Epstein records unsealed and taking out John Conyers, but he's being overly antagonistic about the current work ethic discourse" generally aren't going to bother when that's just going to trigger "lmfao he fucked a tranny/lol alimony much/lmao thernobitch" retard responses.
I don't like Cernovich but if you think this isn't going to make me like him more you don't know shit about divorce courts.
Then he should come out with a guide to finangling divorce settlements. It would probably be more helpful than anything else he's done.
Agreed!
Didn't he do some trp content before
This lost all credibility about halfway through. This is a hit piece, and I think it's silly to post it here. Feel how you want about Cernovich - as I said, he certainly has problems - but posting hit pieces from who I imagine are our enemies, who probably think we're all just as bad as they make Cernovich out to be, is not productive.
"Pizzagate" got blown out of proportion, and there were false conspiracies floating around, but anyone who use "they supported Pizzagate conspiracies" as an attack on someone immediately loses all credibility. There obviously is an elite pedophilia problem.
Also, Roy Moore isn't a pedophile (as far as I know), and anyone who uses that smear also immediately loses credibility, and outs themselves as a leftist. It's just like TDS; anyone who repeats the most ridiculous smears about Trump, and accepts them as fact because legacy media said it, is a retard.
And Cernovich "denying ever having talked about Pizzagate" was, at least based on that clip, him denying ever having talked about children in a dungeon under a specific pizza parlor. Now, I don't know if that's true or not, but it's still vastly different than denying talking about Pizzagate.
Also, his "rape" and "anti-woman" tweets were seemingly at worst edgy jokes. I don't care. Again, this just reeks of performative leftist screeching, and I feel cheated that I read through it, since it led in with the more grounded stuff before going off that wall.
TL;DR: This whole thing is just a crappy hit piece by some angry leftist or, if not a leftist, an absolutely deranged rightwinger who has no values and will immediately sink to repeating leftist smears as if they were fact.
Spiritually there's not really much difference between a perma-raged, loss-addicted right winger and a civilizational-cancer, ultra-smug leftist except the right wing guy can think and type racial slurs.
I don't see this as that sacred, but this is the OP's bio
Not a leftist
Bro, that was the Pizzagate claim. The whole point was that children were being abused in Comet Ping Pong's basement.
I missed the Roy Moore part, still can't skim it, but the major point is that Cerno is a divorce-made man, tranny enjoyer, and maybe moonlighted in gay porn. He's lost all credibility to attack anyone on the right.
Then, as I said, a retarded rightwinger who is willing to take leftist smears as true if it helps him attack someone. That's just as bad as a leftist.
That was a part of it. But it was also just the general elite pedophilia stuff and, as Cernovich said, Podesta and his ilk being massively evil creeps. I'm not sure the order of events, but the Ping Pong shit seemed like a distraction. Although that hard drive shooting was bizarre.
Never argued otherwise. This is still a retarded, smear-laden hit piece, with zero credibility.
The Ping Pong thing was a major part of it, not a distraction. That's why it's called Pizzagate! Between the IG posts of taped down children, Satanic bands, bizarre imagery, weirdly finished basement, and the owner inexplicably being a top 50 "most influential person" in DC, there was a lot of smoke.
Oh yeah and some fed plant came in with a gun and shot the hard drives while missing everyone else, and everyone promptly forgot about the case. OK.
Those 3 things being true (which it seems they are) is the most important part. I don't care about the rest
Also this guy who's only publicly known feats were owning two small pizza shops was listed by WaPo as one of the 50 most influential people in Washington, the seat of power in one of the most powerful countries on Earth.
It was never explained why.
Sure it could have been that he was friends with the reporter that wrote the list and put in on a lark, or it could have been the mask slipping.
For one thing, Cheese Pizza is CP.
It was also used as code by some pedophiles and, famously, some internet jackass called Dr Pizza vehemently attacked "Pizzagate" people and said 'no, pizza isn't any sort of code'...before getting busted for trying to solicit sex from minors. And, since that can be pretty vague...I'm talking 7 and 9 year olds.
What if I alleged that Coca Cola is code for child rape, and 1000 people disagreed with that, and one of those people was arrested for child rape a few years afterwards?
Is there any actual confirmed case of pedophiles using 'Cheese Pizza' as code? And is there any reason to believe this is in any way commonplace?
Plenty. A bunch of "MAPs" had Pizza in their bios, or posted about pizza while also clearly liking underage people. How widespread, I don't know, but it was clearly a thing to some people.
FBI and other groups have lists of other codes for pedophilia, why would it be so outlandish that pizza is also something they use? There was certainly a fair bit of crossover between pizza lovers and child lovers.
Podestas mentioned pizza numerous times, in odd contexts, too.
Now, yeah, some of that stuff was retarded sperging, and people forcing connections where they weren't, but it does seem that there is a nonzero connection between pizza and pedophilia.
The Cheese Pizza thing was conplete horseshit.
My recollection is that Comet Ping Pong broke first or simultaneously with the Obama pizza emails. Maybe I'm wrong
Adults eat pizza. At least here in Europe.
Do you have substantiation of this? Or is this like the children's torture basements of a pizzeria that did not have a basement?
That guy was shot and killed last week. Now, I'm sure you think that happened to shut him up or something.
Do you mean a list created by GQ? I wouldn't exactly look to GQ to accurately determine who is and isn't influential. But by the way, do you also have a charming conspiracy theory for why Svetlana Legetic is inexplicably even higher up on the list? Russian collusion perhaps?
There's no smoke. You guys are just schizos.
Yes, I saw the photos on IG with my own eyes.
And you posted this because... you think it helps you?
Who would you look to determine who's influential, Forbes? Your barber? They're all the same broseph
You'll have to forgive me for not blindly believing you. Can you provide some receipts?
Me? No. It's not that great for your cause though. You were clearly saying that he intentionally shot the hard drives. (Leaving aside for a moment your belief that they were keeping hard drives full of child porn... in their restaurant?) So he was in on the Conspiracy, right? And yet 9 years after, they kill him to shut him up? There's got to be some sort of limit to even your ability to spin everything into a conspiracy.
Turns out, he was just a nutcase.
All equally worthless, though my barber would probably do a better job than a fashion magazine.
No. I might care what some other people think on this forum, a habitual line stepper like you not as much
I honestly don't know what happened there, but it was highly irregular and bizarre
There you go
No it wasn't. The Pizzagate claim was that a Democrat goon whose emails were leaked was speaking in code. The "there's a sex dungeon under a pizza parlour" claim was the one the media pushed to discredit Pizzagate instead of attacking the original claim.
It was all over social media before the media picked up on it
It's got a lot of problems. I feel annoyed I wasted time on this bullshit. It seemed pointed but not retarded most of the way through, then just absolutely fell apart.
Now, to be very clear, this isn't me siding with Cernovich, who definitely does have problems, but siding against the spiteful lefty (presumably) mutant who wrote this hit piece.
Countersignaling pizzagate and the MRA tweets is lefty. The rest is completely fair though. Cernovich spent the last few days heavily implying he bootstrapped himself to success. He doesn't deserve influence.
No, that's just having a brain.
Not sure if you're being ironic or not, but that's really not how I'd frame things...
Wow, one of the few cases where a man is successful in divorce court is a member of the (((tribe)))? I'm shocked.
I don't really remember much of Cernovich, but I am also against bullshit journalism which appears to be little smear jobs in progress until they just drop the act and do shit like this.
If you do something they dislike, they'll comb your life with a fine toothed comb and rejoice in finding something juicy to chew on. It's the only investigative journalism they actually do. Which proves that when properly motivated, they can kinda sorta do the job.
But only if it's to take a big steaming dump on someone they don't like.
Fucking high school mean girl social club etiquette for fully grown adults is absolutely peak pathetic levels.
Based
I don't know who this guy is but good for him if it's true.
My god, the right sure attracts basketcases. And no, not Cernovich, but this anonymous character with an axe to grind. And you guys say the left eats itself, when you mindlessly upvote this crap.
For one, divorce settlements are not 'ripping off' anyone. It's your legal right. You may disagree with it, but his wife would have used it against him if it was to her advantage, so you can hardly begrudge him using it.
I guess you were asleep this week and missed why this is a topic. Cernovich is currently ranting that zoomers are lazy and just need to work their way up like him because everyone is still mad that the technocrats want us to compete with H-1B replacements. Need I say more?
That makes more sense. Still, this is a very stupid hitpiece, because it spins everything in the worst possible way. It's one thing to argue that someone who got a divorce payout cannot say that he worked himself up. It's quite another to say that he 'ripped off' his wife, and to bring up 9 dubious and irrelevant other things that have no bearing at all on the discussion.
Oh no I used a verb you don't like, what a huge deal
I have no problem with the verb, I have a problem with you falsely characterizing the results of his divorce proceedings.
Too bad then, I'm not apologizing for the truth. All 50% divorce settlements are ripoffs. You aren't entitled to half your spouse's wealth because they decided to marry you.
That just your value judgment, not even a question of true/false.
He's a difficult guy to discuss because lots of unstable right wing retards already have strong opinions about him, so the high verbal people who can form and coherently express opinions like "he's generally right/directionally right about most things, has done a lot of good for right wing movements including getting the Epstein records unsealed and taking out John Conyers, but he's being overly antagonistic about the current work ethic discourse" generally aren't going to bother when that's just going to trigger "lmfao he fucked a tranny/lol alimony much/lmao thernobitch" retard responses.
It won't let me read.