"You're AMAZING as Rey! Kathleen says you're gonna be the new face of Star Wars!"
"OMG, You're the best Batwoman! They're gonna love your black girl magic!"
"Captain Marvel will be the face of the MCU, girl! The biggest billion dollar franchise in the world, and it's all gonna be YOU!"
"Holy cats, the Concord alpha was OMG SO AMAZING! It's perfect; you did everything right! Milllions are gonna play it, and you're all gonna be stars and attending launch parties and your Concord characters are gonna be on every Sony PS box sold! Concord is gonna be bigger than Mario and Sonic combined!!!!"
How many movies, TV shows, game studios, and assorted media have catastrophically failed because Toxic Positivity™ spread like a pathogen, with not one person willing to give "hurtful" criticism?
Resulting in the actors (or game devs) being surrounded by women smiling through clenched teeth saying what a wuuuuunnnderful job they did, constantly trying to one-up each other to give the higher praise (therefore proving THEY are even MORE supportive than the person next to them, hence a better person)?
See also: the press interviews for Wicked.
"Oh my Black sister you are just so amaaazing..." - Ariana Grande
OHHHH boi. I think...most of western ones? All the ones where it isn't a "men's club" as journos would call it, where there's a big part of women there. You cannot hurt their fee fees so you cannot be critical of their work.
Mean Girl malice: these girls KNOW how bad the girls are, either in talent, attractiveness, intelligence etc and push and promote them to make THEMSELVES better all under the disguise of 'helping fellow women succeed'
Enforced Conformity: this one is very prevalent in the tech industry and office work, women feel obliged to 'stick together as women' and so will boost each other up even when they aren't fit for the job and it's a detriment them being there.
It really is why men need to be in leadership positions with a gutted HR that will only fire you if you abuse your position (malicious targeting of employees etc), this toxic positivity has put Western media back decades.
This is 100% the case. Status seeking women instinctually give out bad advice when they think it will hurt their competition, and their herd mentality means they need to back the consensus opinion or else become outcasts.
When it comes to entertainment and shows, I think many people, especially women and feminized men, just can't comprehend that the audience wants something other than what they personally like. It's not just "positivity" but complete ignorance of others preferences and refusal to accept that what they like isn't always the best for a general audience.
Believe it or not, this is why I quit watching pro wrestling for years.
Vince McMahon is a psychopath who surrounded himself with stooges and yes-men, and wouldn't take any nay-saying. You HAD to affirm his crazy ideas, or you were gone--even if you spent weeks preparing for them, and he changed his mind on the day of the show.
After years of putting up with this nonsense, I gave up on the company entirely in 2013. I knew that with their monopoly, they had zero incentive to get better. And for those unaware, Total Nonstop Action Wrestling was somehow even worse at the time.
It took the formation of All Elite Wrestling in 2019, breaking the monopoly, to get me interested in the art form again.
Eventually, Vince was finally forced out of his company thanks to credible and disgusting accusations--and normally I'd call this another MeToo attempt, but with how much of a piece of shit Vince is, they proved sadly believable. Look up Janel Grant.
WWE's huge increase in show quality since his ousting speaks for itself--and now that there's a viable competitor, they have every reason to keep producing good stuff.
Neither show is perfect, of course, but today's American pro wrestling is the healthiest it's been in a LONG time, largely because the psychotic old man you never say no to is gone.
Vince is the strange case where both his company and the entire industry would probably be nothing but a shell without his constant devotion and insanity dedicated to it, but his actual true hand was also a plague of utter nonsense and shit upon it too.
I'm glad to hear its gotten better as I myself bounced sometime in the mid 00s because of how hokey it had gotten.
Also, MeToo accusations against a tired, already retiring old man should never be believed. Its waiting to hit someone when they can't hit back and that's a literal violation of the Constitutional right to face your accuser. If you are that scared of him that you need to wait until he can no longer "threaten your career" then clearly the threat to your safety, dignity, and anything else wasn't strong enough for me to care either.
Vince is disgusting and I’m not surprised at the allegations. I guess the only thing is that she was happy to take the money to participate in the disgusting stuff.
I’m an 80s baby so started watching as a little kid and to this day Hogan is my all time favorite. My favorite time frame as a wrestling fan is the 80s through ruthless aggression and I’m happy to rewatch those times on the network. I agree that it is now better than it has been in a long time. I’m still a fan but not as engaged as I was in the timeframe I mentioned earlier but the product is much better than it’s been in a long while.
I agree that it is now better than it has been in a long time
Is it though? Genuinely?
I watched religiously from 1996 until around 2010, it was my favourite thing in the entire world until the PG era just made everything tame and boring.
I’ve glanced briefly at the current Raw roster and it’s mostly a bunch of weird looking, diverse, corporate boardroom approved, modern-day nobodies. They flash the Rock’s face here and there for star power, but I don’t see any actual “superstar” show stoppers. Everyone just wrestles under a pseudonym (a porn-star name basically), there are no “characters” anymore, like a cowboy or a clown or an undertaker or a plumber etc. They don’t feel like superheroes fighting supervillains anymore, just a bunch of roid enthusiasts getting into arguments.
It just looks fuckin lame, but maybe it’s just that I’ve grown jaded and cynical in my old age.
I would love it to be something my 8 year old son could watch with me and enjoy as much as I once did, but I dunno, it just doesn’t hit the same now as it did when Stone Cold Steve Austin would arrive, raise hell and leave. WWE was better under Vince, deranged narcissist that he was
Well it’s definitely better than PG era. Like u said I loved 80s to ruthless aggression. Attitude Era was amazing but my all time favorite time for wrestling is 80s. Love the over the top gimmicks and promos along with heel commentary
I’d say a lot of things since 2016. Look at Female Ghostbusters. They make something they know people don’t want and the media helps by pushing the narrative of the studio. Seems to happen over and over. Same thing with adaptations totally butcher the source material or cast people that look nothing like they are supposed to but they probably tell them they will be mega stars.
What's sad is if they at least slow-rolled the woke it would have probably done fine. Just bring in one or two thots into the new team to shut the feminazis up and make it a pass the torch story for the fan service.
Instead, as always, they go full woke with it and the humor is atrocious with constant female talking. Not even their own woke side went to see it.
It's a thing in Hollywood anyway. The guy in gymkata had no idea how bad the movie was, except the village scene, that he thought he had a career. Jaleel White was told on the last day of Family Matters that since his contract was up no one had to like him.
It occurs to me that we should push to brand the phrase "toxic positivity" as a "chud" thing. This way, when woke companies try to ask for genuine criticism, their employees will go, "oh, wow, this is just 'toxic positivity' all over again! You just hate women, CHUD!!!" and they will continue to spiral into bankruptcy without ever being able to fix it.
You are working on a game, or novel, or song so that we personally can take over in the wake of their failure, right?
There's about three separate threads in that question. One's been touched on here by SM1.
In a scenario where a herd of low-value women has formed, the higher end of the herd will run roughshod over the lower half (or even more). This results in mediocre women looking better in comparison, because they ran their social subordinates through the grinder.
In a scenario where a large group of upper-mid-value women has formed, they will "reinforce" each other. I've seen this happen as literal "YOU GO GIRL" callouts in staff meetings. Fawning over each other, etc., etc. They're making sure that all boats are going to rise equally through... I dunno, fucking girl power or some such shit. This typically ends badly, because someone girlbosses too close to the Sun.
A high-value but weak woman forms a clique of lower-value but stronger women. Typically happens within a power structure, not across it. In the case I was in, weak department head gathered all of the vicious, useless women under her wings. Typically has more staying power than 2, and more positive outcomes than 1. Problem is that eventually the Alpha Bitch comes under scrutiny, and all the lower-value women scatter. Look at the big tech scandals involving women CEOs.
How many movies, TV shows, game studios, and assorted media have catastrophically failed because Toxic Positivity™ spread like a pathogen, with not one person willing to give "hurtful" criticism?
Resulting in the actors (or game devs) being surrounded by women smiling through clenched teeth saying what a wuuuuunnnderful job they did, constantly trying to one-up each other to give the higher praise (therefore proving THEY are even MORE supportive than the person next to them, hence a better person)?
See also: the press interviews for Wicked.
OHHHH boi. I think...most of western ones? All the ones where it isn't a "men's club" as journos would call it, where there's a big part of women there. You cannot hurt their fee fees so you cannot be critical of their work.
The press interviews for Wicked were weird as fuck. I can't believe those people are real and walk on the same planet as I do.
There's two main types of toxic positivity:
Mean Girl malice: these girls KNOW how bad the girls are, either in talent, attractiveness, intelligence etc and push and promote them to make THEMSELVES better all under the disguise of 'helping fellow women succeed'
Enforced Conformity: this one is very prevalent in the tech industry and office work, women feel obliged to 'stick together as women' and so will boost each other up even when they aren't fit for the job and it's a detriment them being there.
It really is why men need to be in leadership positions with a gutted HR that will only fire you if you abuse your position (malicious targeting of employees etc), this toxic positivity has put Western media back decades.
This is 100% the case. Status seeking women instinctually give out bad advice when they think it will hurt their competition, and their herd mentality means they need to back the consensus opinion or else become outcasts.
When it comes to entertainment and shows, I think many people, especially women and feminized men, just can't comprehend that the audience wants something other than what they personally like. It's not just "positivity" but complete ignorance of others preferences and refusal to accept that what they like isn't always the best for a general audience.
Believe it or not, this is why I quit watching pro wrestling for years.
Vince McMahon is a psychopath who surrounded himself with stooges and yes-men, and wouldn't take any nay-saying. You HAD to affirm his crazy ideas, or you were gone--even if you spent weeks preparing for them, and he changed his mind on the day of the show.
After years of putting up with this nonsense, I gave up on the company entirely in 2013. I knew that with their monopoly, they had zero incentive to get better. And for those unaware, Total Nonstop Action Wrestling was somehow even worse at the time.
It took the formation of All Elite Wrestling in 2019, breaking the monopoly, to get me interested in the art form again.
Eventually, Vince was finally forced out of his company thanks to credible and disgusting accusations--and normally I'd call this another MeToo attempt, but with how much of a piece of shit Vince is, they proved sadly believable. Look up Janel Grant.
WWE's huge increase in show quality since his ousting speaks for itself--and now that there's a viable competitor, they have every reason to keep producing good stuff.
Neither show is perfect, of course, but today's American pro wrestling is the healthiest it's been in a LONG time, largely because the psychotic old man you never say no to is gone.
Vince is the strange case where both his company and the entire industry would probably be nothing but a shell without his constant devotion and insanity dedicated to it, but his actual true hand was also a plague of utter nonsense and shit upon it too.
I'm glad to hear its gotten better as I myself bounced sometime in the mid 00s because of how hokey it had gotten.
Also, MeToo accusations against a tired, already retiring old man should never be believed. Its waiting to hit someone when they can't hit back and that's a literal violation of the Constitutional right to face your accuser. If you are that scared of him that you need to wait until he can no longer "threaten your career" then clearly the threat to your safety, dignity, and anything else wasn't strong enough for me to care either.
Vince is disgusting and I’m not surprised at the allegations. I guess the only thing is that she was happy to take the money to participate in the disgusting stuff.
I’m an 80s baby so started watching as a little kid and to this day Hogan is my all time favorite. My favorite time frame as a wrestling fan is the 80s through ruthless aggression and I’m happy to rewatch those times on the network. I agree that it is now better than it has been in a long time. I’m still a fan but not as engaged as I was in the timeframe I mentioned earlier but the product is much better than it’s been in a long while.
Is it though? Genuinely?
I watched religiously from 1996 until around 2010, it was my favourite thing in the entire world until the PG era just made everything tame and boring.
I’ve glanced briefly at the current Raw roster and it’s mostly a bunch of weird looking, diverse, corporate boardroom approved, modern-day nobodies. They flash the Rock’s face here and there for star power, but I don’t see any actual “superstar” show stoppers. Everyone just wrestles under a pseudonym (a porn-star name basically), there are no “characters” anymore, like a cowboy or a clown or an undertaker or a plumber etc. They don’t feel like superheroes fighting supervillains anymore, just a bunch of roid enthusiasts getting into arguments.
It just looks fuckin lame, but maybe it’s just that I’ve grown jaded and cynical in my old age.
I would love it to be something my 8 year old son could watch with me and enjoy as much as I once did, but I dunno, it just doesn’t hit the same now as it did when Stone Cold Steve Austin would arrive, raise hell and leave. WWE was better under Vince, deranged narcissist that he was
Well it’s definitely better than PG era. Like u said I loved 80s to ruthless aggression. Attitude Era was amazing but my all time favorite time for wrestling is 80s. Love the over the top gimmicks and promos along with heel commentary
I’d say a lot of things since 2016. Look at Female Ghostbusters. They make something they know people don’t want and the media helps by pushing the narrative of the studio. Seems to happen over and over. Same thing with adaptations totally butcher the source material or cast people that look nothing like they are supposed to but they probably tell them they will be mega stars.
What's sad is if they at least slow-rolled the woke it would have probably done fine. Just bring in one or two thots into the new team to shut the feminazis up and make it a pass the torch story for the fan service.
Instead, as always, they go full woke with it and the humor is atrocious with constant female talking. Not even their own woke side went to see it.
Yea that’s what I was thinking. Or just have the original crew realize they are too old and have them train a new team
It's a thing in Hollywood anyway. The guy in gymkata had no idea how bad the movie was, except the village scene, that he thought he had a career. Jaleel White was told on the last day of Family Matters that since his contract was up no one had to like him.
Now add feminism.
It occurs to me that we should push to brand the phrase "toxic positivity" as a "chud" thing. This way, when woke companies try to ask for genuine criticism, their employees will go, "oh, wow, this is just 'toxic positivity' all over again! You just hate women, CHUD!!!" and they will continue to spiral into bankruptcy without ever being able to fix it.
You are working on a game, or novel, or song so that we personally can take over in the wake of their failure, right?
There's about three separate threads in that question. One's been touched on here by SM1.
In a scenario where a herd of low-value women has formed, the higher end of the herd will run roughshod over the lower half (or even more). This results in mediocre women looking better in comparison, because they ran their social subordinates through the grinder.
In a scenario where a large group of upper-mid-value women has formed, they will "reinforce" each other. I've seen this happen as literal "YOU GO GIRL" callouts in staff meetings. Fawning over each other, etc., etc. They're making sure that all boats are going to rise equally through... I dunno, fucking girl power or some such shit. This typically ends badly, because someone girlbosses too close to the Sun.
A high-value but weak woman forms a clique of lower-value but stronger women. Typically happens within a power structure, not across it. In the case I was in, weak department head gathered all of the vicious, useless women under her wings. Typically has more staying power than 2, and more positive outcomes than 1. Problem is that eventually the Alpha Bitch comes under scrutiny, and all the lower-value women scatter. Look at the big tech scandals involving women CEOs.