I don't think that answers my question. I think you might have hinted at it with this line:
So you cannot separate Christ from the redemption from damnation and actually Jesus Christ is so much more profound to behold than merely not going to Hell.
I don't really care about hell for the purposes of this question. I think you're trying to tell me that the Christ as a gift, and path to redemption as a gift are being considered the same thing?
Must be hell, sharing a world with eight billion people, all of whom you consider enemies, you shameless, lying bastard. (Who is NOT a part of any organized conspiracy!)
They're not different. You're basically asking an advertising company to change their short, easy to grasp catchphrase to something more complicated that fewer people will remember.
I'm not asking anyone to do anything. Remember, I'm not coming from the position of a Christian. I didn't know there wasn't a difference. i don't intuit these things.
I don't think that answers my question. I think you might have hinted at it with this line:
I don't really care about hell for the purposes of this question. I think you're trying to tell me that the Christ as a gift, and path to redemption as a gift are being considered the same thing?
I see them still as different, but it pedantic.
Pedantic indeed.
Fair enough
Must be hell, sharing a world with eight billion people, all of whom you consider enemies, you shameless, lying bastard. (Who is NOT a part of any organized conspiracy!)
Who is this?
They're not different. You're basically asking an advertising company to change their short, easy to grasp catchphrase to something more complicated that fewer people will remember.
I'm not asking anyone to do anything. Remember, I'm not coming from the position of a Christian. I didn't know there wasn't a difference. i don't intuit these things.