Ehh, like I've mentioned to you before, canon is still a useful concept, because anime filler exists (even if for example, the filler in the original Dragon Ball Z show is a lot better than for example, One Piece's filler), and to invoke Dragon Ball again, the only reason that Battle of Gods, Resurrection F and Dragon Ball Super were made is because of Toriyama's personal disgust at Dragon Ball Evolution.
For my part I disagree only insofar as "canon" as a concept is always going to be limited to a specific key-holder's choice of continuity.
Outside of that, there's no "canon" for Greek myths, and i find that to be a purer example of human storytelling than the cluster of retardation that Ip law represents.
Broadly it's only purpose is to set your expectations of continuity. Which, is easy. And does not require government enforcement against anybody who tries to play pretend too effectively.
Its not useful to anyone because it can change on a whim. Its also far less sacred than it once was and now people will gladly pick and choose what parts they like, including the actual series owners.
DB is a great example. Super is literal garbage*, so a lot of fans like myself just ignore its existence and keep the prior Canon (that Toriyama retconned). Bardock is still badass, Broly is insane, and Trunks had purple hair and grew up instead of staying a loser Twink forever. We can even slot in Tapion giving Trunks the sword, Garlic Jr. kicking off Z, and Cooler having the better 5th form than Frieza ever could.
Which nobody can complain about it, as Toriyama himself treated his canon as shit and ignored things at a whim, so we can do the same back to him.
*It will never not be ironic to me that he saw an awful adaption of "his series" and it inspired him to ruin his actual series himself so badly that people turned their opinions on GT around. Great guy, but he should have let it stay dead.
Toriyama "canonized" him in a random one shot, so now instead he is a caring loving father (only to Goku, never even spares a thought about Raditz) who literally developed a conscience randomly after years of genocide because he saw some aliens who reminded him of his wife and younger son. He is also super duper smarter than any other Saiyan because he somehow was the only one who thought for a second and realized all the red flags Frieza was putting out about killing them. It also added Goku's mother, a literal void of personality who is just a generic nice and caring woman who is nothing like any other Saiyan we've seen.
So basically he just made the "Superman" rip off much more exact, destroyed every reason why fans loved the original Bardock, and retconned a shit ton of Saiyan established lore. Just for a throwaway character he never again references or uses. He ruined him just so he could "own" the character himself (instead of being an original creation of the anime team like all the movies).
At least nu-Broly is still an interesting and good character who was used very well so far despite being a lot more generic.
Canon was useful when designating what was the actual show and what was fanfiction being written by a random person.
Once fanfiction became more than just shitty webrings and instead AAA productions by the "owners" of the IP, it became a useless concept.
Ehh, like I've mentioned to you before, canon is still a useful concept, because anime filler exists (even if for example, the filler in the original Dragon Ball Z show is a lot better than for example, One Piece's filler), and to invoke Dragon Ball again, the only reason that Battle of Gods, Resurrection F and Dragon Ball Super were made is because of Toriyama's personal disgust at Dragon Ball Evolution.
...Why must you invoke the name of That Which Does Not Exist And Never Did!?!
What are you talking about?
exactly
For my part I disagree only insofar as "canon" as a concept is always going to be limited to a specific key-holder's choice of continuity.
Outside of that, there's no "canon" for Greek myths, and i find that to be a purer example of human storytelling than the cluster of retardation that Ip law represents.
Broadly it's only purpose is to set your expectations of continuity. Which, is easy. And does not require government enforcement against anybody who tries to play pretend too effectively.
Its not useful to anyone because it can change on a whim. Its also far less sacred than it once was and now people will gladly pick and choose what parts they like, including the actual series owners.
DB is a great example. Super is literal garbage*, so a lot of fans like myself just ignore its existence and keep the prior Canon (that Toriyama retconned). Bardock is still badass, Broly is insane, and Trunks had purple hair and grew up instead of staying a loser Twink forever. We can even slot in Tapion giving Trunks the sword, Garlic Jr. kicking off Z, and Cooler having the better 5th form than Frieza ever could.
Which nobody can complain about it, as Toriyama himself treated his canon as shit and ignored things at a whim, so we can do the same back to him.
*It will never not be ironic to me that he saw an awful adaption of "his series" and it inspired him to ruin his actual series himself so badly that people turned their opinions on GT around. Great guy, but he should have let it stay dead.
What did they do to bardock?
Toriyama "canonized" him in a random one shot, so now instead he is a caring loving father (only to Goku, never even spares a thought about Raditz) who literally developed a conscience randomly after years of genocide because he saw some aliens who reminded him of his wife and younger son. He is also super duper smarter than any other Saiyan because he somehow was the only one who thought for a second and realized all the red flags Frieza was putting out about killing them. It also added Goku's mother, a literal void of personality who is just a generic nice and caring woman who is nothing like any other Saiyan we've seen.
So basically he just made the "Superman" rip off much more exact, destroyed every reason why fans loved the original Bardock, and retconned a shit ton of Saiyan established lore. Just for a throwaway character he never again references or uses. He ruined him just so he could "own" the character himself (instead of being an original creation of the anime team like all the movies).
At least nu-Broly is still an interesting and good character who was used very well so far despite being a lot more generic.
It's all Dante, all the time. Just less ability and love for the subject.