If a product is free, then you are the actual product.
EGS would have zero foothold if not for suckering people in with free games constantly (and seemingly the quality of those games drops by the year), and then it will do what Chinese companies do on your computer.
Yeah, I ran into that about a month ago. I do not regret buying the game a second time now that I've got a copy that can't be fucked up by corporate meddling.
I swear once GOG folds we're going straight back to piracy being the only way to play anything consistently.
Ironically, it happened entirely by 2k trying to prevent that type of issue as it all happened because they removed their launcher from the games that used it. And it seems to be working fine on games like Xcom 2.
It's a (relatively) inexpensive marketing tactic. Some people stick around and become paying customers. This has been a much more effective way at building market share than something like advertising with Google. Even if there is also nefarious intent, which there may be, you have otherwise clearly laid out legitimate reasons for giving away free games.
It is, but its useless when you can provide no other valuable service besides it. The EGS spent much of its existence missing critical features and generally being worse than alternatives in almost every way, including actively destroying consumer goodwill by bribing devs with exclusivity contracts (with many devs also burning goodwill in their responses).
The foot in the door is only useful if you have anything worth selling inside, and for the most part EGS is luring people in just for them to nope back out.
including actively destroying consumer goodwill by bribing devs with exclusivity contracts (with many devs also burning goodwill in their responses).
including actively destroying consumer goodwill by bribing devs with exclusivity contracts (with many devs also burning goodwill in their responses).
This is why I can't take anti EGS comments seriously.
Steam effectively made games exclusive to their platform and has the devs themselves stuffing in spyware and who knows what else.
Forced exclusivity isn't functional exclusivity and the fact that you cannot understand the difference between the two shows how retarded the average EGS fanboy is.
That and apparently failing at properly Copy/Pasting.
The problem is first of all it doesn't matter and you don't know what deals were done behind the scenes anyway.
If people want to whine about the Chinese involvement that's a different story but complaining they had to buy it at a different place comes across as petty.
If you think people are EGS fanboys for pointing this out then that's retarded.
It absolutely does, and saying it doesn't is why you are being called a fanboy retard. One demands you only cater to them, the other provides a service that is good enough that companies choose not to use anyone else. Its a very easy difference.
you don't know what deals were done behind the scenes anyway
Except we know a lot of them because many devs had to explain why their games were suddenly not for sale on Steam after taking money for pre-orders there. Just because you didn't pay attention doesn't mean everyone else didn't.
DARQ was a famous example of a completely independent dev explaining in detail what they tried to pull on him.
complaining they had to buy it at a different place comes across as petty.
Funny how this strawman only comes up for EGS, and never about GOG a completely different storefront that exists completely out of the Steam ecosystem and offers a competitive product without anti-consumer practices.
But since your defense is predicated on everyone being as ignorant as you are, I'd not be shocked if you didn't even know GOG was a thing.
Steam doesn't pay or in any way incentivize developers to be exclusive, or try to stop them from selling games on other platforms. It just provides an effective platform. Epic does pay developers for exclusivity.
Tencent bought psyonix, and then removed a game I already owned from steam to try to force me to install their vomitous client to play my game.
If they removed the game that's a consumer rights issue that depends on your country.
Valve did that to get people onto Steam and it allows developers to screw around with your games at will.
Still not installing that Chinese spyware, thanks.
If a product is free, then you are the actual product.
EGS would have zero foothold if not for suckering people in with free games constantly (and seemingly the quality of those games drops by the year), and then it will do what Chinese companies do on your computer.
but people will still use steam which is also a vector for that or cdpr/gog with it's ESG and secret owners.
GOG at least offers offline installers for people who aren't retarded faggots who are too stupid to be allowed on the internet.
And it usually offers a more stable version of any older game on offer.
Its currently the almost the only way to legally play XCOM EU due to 2k destroying the functionality on Steam.
Yeah, I ran into that about a month ago. I do not regret buying the game a second time now that I've got a copy that can't be fucked up by corporate meddling.
I swear once GOG folds we're going straight back to piracy being the only way to play anything consistently.
Ironically, it happened entirely by 2k trying to prevent that type of issue as it all happened because they removed their launcher from the games that used it. And it seems to be working fine on games like Xcom 2.
The AAA industry can't burn to the ground soon enough.
That reminds me that gog have slowly screwed up their installers over the years or tampered with the game files.
It's a (relatively) inexpensive marketing tactic. Some people stick around and become paying customers. This has been a much more effective way at building market share than something like advertising with Google. Even if there is also nefarious intent, which there may be, you have otherwise clearly laid out legitimate reasons for giving away free games.
It is, but its useless when you can provide no other valuable service besides it. The EGS spent much of its existence missing critical features and generally being worse than alternatives in almost every way, including actively destroying consumer goodwill by bribing devs with exclusivity contracts (with many devs also burning goodwill in their responses).
The foot in the door is only useful if you have anything worth selling inside, and for the most part EGS is luring people in just for them to nope back out.
This is why I can't take anti EGS comments seriously. Steam effectively made games exclusive to their platform and has the devs themselves stuffing in spyware and who knows what else.
Forced exclusivity isn't functional exclusivity and the fact that you cannot understand the difference between the two shows how retarded the average EGS fanboy is.
That and apparently failing at properly Copy/Pasting.
The problem is first of all it doesn't matter and you don't know what deals were done behind the scenes anyway. If people want to whine about the Chinese involvement that's a different story but complaining they had to buy it at a different place comes across as petty.
If you think people are EGS fanboys for pointing this out then that's retarded.
It absolutely does, and saying it doesn't is why you are being called a fanboy retard. One demands you only cater to them, the other provides a service that is good enough that companies choose not to use anyone else. Its a very easy difference.
Except we know a lot of them because many devs had to explain why their games were suddenly not for sale on Steam after taking money for pre-orders there. Just because you didn't pay attention doesn't mean everyone else didn't.
DARQ was a famous example of a completely independent dev explaining in detail what they tried to pull on him.
Funny how this strawman only comes up for EGS, and never about GOG a completely different storefront that exists completely out of the Steam ecosystem and offers a competitive product without anti-consumer practices.
But since your defense is predicated on everyone being as ignorant as you are, I'd not be shocked if you didn't even know GOG was a thing.
It doesn't. In both cases these companies offered game devs an option and they took it whether it was good for customers or not.
Saying that makes you look silly considering the other comments in this thread.
Steam doesn't pay or in any way incentivize developers to be exclusive, or try to stop them from selling games on other platforms. It just provides an effective platform. Epic does pay developers for exclusivity.
Tencent bought psyonix, and then removed a game I already owned from steam to try to force me to install their vomitous client to play my game.
If they removed the game that's a consumer rights issue that depends on your country. Valve did that to get people onto Steam and it allows developers to screw around with your games at will.
There hasn't been any big games released so far and today has Wizard of Legend.
Good concept mediocre execution roguelike slop.
Already played it. Not worth installing tencent spyware.
Prime gaming has a bunch of games for free as well.