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Redditards cheer as Ukraine assassinates CBRN general Igor Kirillov in Moscow (www.telegraph.co.uk)
posted 7 months ago by Grumman 7 months ago by Grumman +69 / -4
Ukraine kills Russian nuclear general in Moscow scooter bomb attack
Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov and his assistant were killed in the blast outside an apartment building
www.telegraph.co.uk
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– GamingTheSystem-01 2 points 7 months ago +2 / -0

why Russians would accept killing several completely innocent people

What do you expect them to do if they don't approve?

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 7 months ago +4 / -0

I expect the regime to not do it if they don't approve. The killing itself, if it was a Kremlin killing, was likely the result of discontent over Wagner getting away with shooting down helicopters and planes. I saw Russians directly criticize Putin by pointing out that you cannot be a leader when you allow opponents to get away with killing forces loyal to you.

Russians tend to get what they want. Russians briefly protested cuts to government in 2005, and since then, the government has been very careful to not cut social services. They protested against the electoral fraud for United Russia in 2011, and the next election was one of the cleanest ever.

For some reason, these 'authoritarian' countries listen to people's protest more than supposedly 'democratic' countries. Xi canceled the Covid restrictions after a few protests. China rewards regional governors by how few protests occur. Hell, even Nazi Germany immunized a certain class of Jews (those married to German women) after their wives staged a daring protest.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 1 point 6 months ago +2 / -1

I expect the regime to not do it if they don't approve

??? I thought you meant the russian people. The regime is the one doing the killing, so obviously they approve. The war has killed millions of people. Russian state media is on every other day talking about how they're going to nuke every city in europe if the latest red line is crossed, like cartoon villians. Putin has likely personally killed people when he was in the KGB.

Don't even get me started on china, you have no idea wtf you're talking about. One example: The candle emoji. You can look it up yourself.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 6 months ago +2 / -0

I thought you meant the russian people. The regime is the one doing the killing, so obviously they approve.

I do mean the Russian people.

Russian state media is on every other day talking about how they're going to nuke every city in europe if the latest red line is crossed, like cartoon villians.

I mean, I do recall the US threatening the world with destruction if Cuba would not cease to exercise its sovereign right to have Russian soldiers and missiles on its soil.

I assume you think that is Completely Different (because we did it).

Also, how exactly are you so well up to date on what Russian state media is saying? Who is serving you these translated clips? Am I allowed to know?

Don't even get me started on china, you have no idea wtf you're talking about. One example: The candle emoji. You can look it up yourself.

What's that go to do with the fact that China lifted Covid restrictions when there were a few small-scale protests? Trudeau should have taken some lessons from that.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 0 points 6 months ago +1 / -1

Who is serving you these translated clips?

Lmao you don't need translations dude they they're up there showing power point presentations with cgi animations of the uk being erased by nuclear bomb induced tidal waves. It's hilarious.

What's that go to do with the fact that China lifted Covid restrictions when there were a few small-scale protests?

It's got to do with your statement not being true.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

Vote harder, of course.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 7 months ago +2 / -0

Actually, not voting or voting for anyone but Putin would alarm the Kremlin.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

You have a source for that?

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 7 months ago +2 / -0

Yes. The government often puts pressure on employers to encourage, pressure or force employees to vote: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/09/08/russians-say-they-are-being-forced-to-vote-in-elections-this-time-online-a74999

(I don't know anything about this specific article, but it mirrors something I've seen a lot.)

Now why would that be?

If they held an election and no one voted, their victory would have no legitimacy - even if they used ballot-stuffing to give themselves 80% of the vote. That's what I've been telling Trump supporters who over the past few years argued that "they'll steal it anyway". Stealing elections is not without costs.

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