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Musk and Trump tell Zelensky the ATM is closed. CNN catlady almost cries. (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend +90 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

So looks like setting the stage for day one the Ukraine War will be over.

My guess is that the Donbas region will either be independent fully or administratively but more or less a buffer zone. Putin needs an exit that keeps his credibility and Ukraine just needs this to end to begin a century of rebuilding.

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– Kaarous 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Putin's credibility comes from having the most battle hardened army in the world, and redefining the modern concept of land warfare to effectively completely defeat NATO doctrine and equipment. He's beloved at home and the Russians don't have to kidnap old men off the streets to do their "recruiting."

Unlike the United States he doesn't have a credibility problem. The rest of the world knows that Zelensky was trying to detonate the Kursk nuclear power plant. They know we were going to let him do it.

The Russians have no need to accept a white peace, nor the inclination. The Ukies are going to have to surrender.

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– SoctaticMethod1 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Let's be honest here, Russia fucked up, this SHOULD'VE been won in a week but the Russian military leaders were inept and corrupt and fucked it up.

Russia has lost men and equipment it SHOULD NOT have in this war and their military tech is not even on par with the US's 3rd generation gear.

They're winning by doing the WW1 tactic of creeping artillery and moving troops behind but this is far from a decisive win it should have been.

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– Kaarous 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

It was won in a week. We and the British convinced the Ukies that we'd back them to the hilt and it'd let them win. That's why the Ukies didn't surrender in Turkey.

Wars don't mean never taking losses, that's Hollywood horseshit. The Russians are a hard people, they came prepared to absorb and replace losses and they have done so successfully.

And at this point their tech is as good as ours or better, save for in space ISR. Something I once had a personal hand in I might add, so I know this for a fact. Most importantly their tech is reliable and a lot of our stuff is chockablock with proprietary mechanics and prima donna electronics. Their missile tech is a decade ahead of us right now.

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– SoctaticMethod1 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

And at this point their tech is as good as ours or better

Laughs in DARPA which is essentially what happens when you give engineers cocaine, meth and a bottomless budget...

No one in the world STILL has a fighter on par with the F22 which is around two decades old.

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– zakat 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

And at this point their tech is as good as ours or better

But we don't even give UA our good stuff?

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– ACanadianGoose 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I feel like Russia getting off to a slow start is kind of par for the course though. It feels to me like the Russian military is always, for lack of a better word, sluggish and clumsy at the start of the war and takes some time to warm up and figure things out. So while the start of the war might be a disaster for Russia, they do have the stamina to fight it out and harden. From my admittedly amateurish position as armchair general, it looks much like the same pattern the Russians followed in every major war since Napoleon.

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– theaustrianpainter 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Considering all their old soviet junk got destroyed in the early days, their aresenal has been modernized by the conflict. All replacements are modern.

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– theaustrianpainter 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Considering all their old soviet junk got destroyed in the early days, their aresenal has been modernized by the conflict. All replacements are modern.

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– daberoniandcheese 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Putin needs an exit that keeps his credibility

What makes you say that? Russia is winning decisively. He may not even want to negotiate and just continue steamrolling Donetsk Oblast.

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– DoctorDank 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It'll be more than just Donbas. Russia wants to preserve their land bridge to Crimea, so they will want Kherson as well.

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