don't feel bad, My fiance's mother had an actual HD CRT and she had to put it in hock, then never got it out. Pissed me off so bad...If I'da known she didn't have the money, I would have gone and got it out myself...
I still have my optiquest viewsonic monitor. I put a dust cover over it and put it in the closet. It should still work just fine, but I haven't plugged it in since like 2002. I probably should, just to see if it does work.
My high school had one for a tv that emitted this high pitched whine which gave me visual migraines and headaches. I thought I was losing my mind seeing a flashing rainbow in the left corner of my vision every time the tv turned on.
What the fuck is this love for CRT? Whether it's new or old, it isn't warranted.
Seriously, 240p resolution where you can physically see each pixel on the screen, and games were designed with art direction that intentionally utilized the light emitters to smooth out edges on the glass, while they also fired light directly into your eyes, and were insanely heavy.
"it worked forever" until the parts literally fucking burned out, or the emitters actually burned your fucking screen, let alone your retina. Which, normally, would still have been 5-10 years.
This shit isn't like the solid, cast-iron, sewing stands from the early 1900's which were built to last forever. This is just cheap electronic junk from the 1990's which was still made in China and Indonesia with no intention to keep them working.
Seriously, pick a product that isn't shit. Like those sewing machines, or antique furniture, or even stone masonry for construction.
depends on the tv. I've mentioned it once or twice, but my fiance's mother had a CRT that was 1080i/1080p (can't remember). weighed a ton, but it looked nice, and the tube meant it actually had room for halfway decent speakers in the case, lol
Monitors could go higher thanks to VGA connections. But, that's the limit. The limit is basically 720p, which is good for a xbox 360. Not much past that.
You have no clue what you're talking about. Bog standard prebuilt retail monitors did 1024x768 at 85hz. A standard gaming monitor would run 1600x1200 at 85hz, and high end gaming screens would do 2048x1536 at 85-100hz.
lol, fiance's mother had a 1080i(1080p? Can't remember) CRT in the mid-two thousands...had a nice picture, admittedly weighed a ton like you pointed out. Even cheap sets were reliable, though. LCD/LED are fine, I just liked the CRTs a little better. I wont deny some of that is nostalgia-goggles, but If I could find a hi-def CRT anymore, I'd buy it in a minute.
I was considering remodeling my gaming room and I've sunk hours into finding a table that would actually have a weight rating that could hold my CRT and the consoles that would connect to it.
Ultimately I decided, if I wanted one, I'd have to build one.
Meanwhile, a little bit of rose colored glasses because old tubes can have their own issues. I remember getting a bunch of adhesive magnetic strips to fix screen geometry and setting up a mirror so I could see the effects.
CRT construction is basically a lost art today. The machines have been scrapped, everyone who operated them retired or died. It's kind of sad.
=P you could just keep an eye out for an old dresser or a bookshelf at thrift stores/antique shops.
Heck, keep an eye out for a rear projection or an old console tv that quit and gut the console, lol. Heck, a while back, somebody down the street had a rear projection out on the curb for free, but I didn't have a way to get it home safely, lol (I didn't have my truck, and I live on a hill)
You can't make 1080p CRT's that's the point. 1080i was 720p, that was the maximum limit of an HD CRT which used different technology than regular CRT's.
I still have several. They are very good for being heavy and making white noise.
Bullshit. A normal gaming monitor around 2005 would run 1600x1200 at 85hz, that's 200 more lines of vertical resolution than 1080p. A high end gaming monitor like a 24" widescreen trinitron would do 1920x1200 at well over 100hz or 2048x1536 at 85hz, higher than "2k" is today.
And that was for monitors built in 2004.
LCDs are such an unbelievably shitty technology that's taken twenty years for them to just barely start catching up to CRTs in terms of resolution. Response time and image quality are still down the toilet.
It's just pathetic that you have to lie this badly.
A 24" CRT monitor. Yeah, that's pretty fucking high-end alright. Besides still not believing you on the stats, how much more expensive than the computer do you think that monitor typically was? Four times? Ten times? I'm sure you're gonna tell me that in 2005 you could buy one from Wal-Mart for $50.
Considering how long gamers have been obsessing about refresh rate and resolution in that time period, CRT's would not have gone away if you were right, which you're not.
shut the fuck zoomer. CRTs were made for standard definition content. you probably have no idea what it actually looks like but it looked WAY better than those shit rips you see on YouTube. The BEST way to watch SD content will always be CRTs. the BEST way to play certain video games will ALWAYS be CRTs. die mad about it. your oled fires light right at your eyes too, dumb fuck. we're they heavy? yeah. how often do you move your tv though? is that really a factor that matters? plasmas were WAY harder to handle in that regard.
and yeah they work a real real long fucking time. I have a consumer model from 94 in my bedroom, it was barely ever used in its day so the picture is unbelievably crisp. I have a professional model from 91 that is so crisp it will knock your fucking socks off, I guarantee it. 5- 10 years... HA ive seen working crts from the 1960s! OLEDs are just as burn in prone as CRTs and if you think anyone's retina was burned youre even more retarded than you sound.
the product wasn't shit, it was invariably more reliable than modern displays.. I do custom av installs and have for years I KNOW lmao there was no software there was no bugs, no cec, no edid NONE OF THAT you gave em the signal and they fuckin displayed it, end of story. now do you want to argue about 1970s amplifiers cause I'll clean your fucking clock on that subject too you smarmy zoomer cunt.
they actually were common in PAL regions... think they started broadcasting in 16:9 in like 94 or so over there. sony called em super trinitrons, cool shit.. but academy (4:3) will always be king in my heart.
Shut the fuck up, Zoomer. I still have them and there's a reason I don't use them on any modern system. SD content is 480p max. Yes, old video games look okay on CRT's for the exact reason I said, faggot. And yes, moving a television is hard when you have to, and as you age, you end up not being able to move it at all. It's like a very shitty piano, or less useful anvil.
I'm sure that it does last a real long time when you don't fucking turn it on. No, OLED's are not nearly as bad as CRTs.
If you have a 60's CRT, then I pitty you for your monitor sized screen on a television weighting in at 75 lbs that you literally can't connect anything to, and can't see any broadcast television with.
You're an idiot if you think it's more reliable. As you said, when you don't use it, it works great.
I want you to pick a good old product, you fuck-witted retard.
who the fuck said anything about using them on modern systems? that's just as retarded as trying to watch SD on a modern television. I am old so I watch old shit.. like old recordings of broadcast television. the only way to watch it and have it look right is using a CRT. and thats a fact. do old games look OKAY??? Yeah that's why every composite upscaler has crt filters, faggot.
I didn't say I never turn it on, I said it wasn't used much in it's day... meaning the THIRTY YEARS it sat in my neighbors kitchen being used for a few minutes evey morning to watch the news before they left. I use it damn near everyday.
I do not have a 60s crt but have seen them working. let's check in on an OLED in 50 yesrs and see how it goes.
they were absolutely more reliable. do you know how many fucking stupid issues I deal with all the time with retarded TV OSs doing professional installs? do you know how many times I replaced basically new tvs that shit the bed for seemingly no reason? they were more reliable by nature because they were vastly less complicated. you're retarded if you can't understand that.
Praise Cathode!
All Glory to the Hypno-I mean CRT....
and burn the zoomer heretics!
I had a 19" viewsonic CRT.
Foolishly, I was a CONSOOOOOMER at the time and thought products needed to be upgraded constantly. It is gone.
I swear CRTs are just easier to see for some reason. A much better interface between eyeball and digital.
don't feel bad, My fiance's mother had an actual HD CRT and she had to put it in hock, then never got it out. Pissed me off so bad...If I'da known she didn't have the money, I would have gone and got it out myself...
Critical Ray Tube
kek
And 'AGP' used to refer to a graphics card slot, not a middle-aged cross dressing man.
kek, Don't know the middle aged man term, but i'll take your word for it.
Autogynephilia. Men aroused by the thought of themselves as a woman.
They tend to be the ones that get the most angry (in a very male way) when people criticise anything trans-related.
Can confirm, still have the TV I played all my SNES games on and it's still going strong, although admittedly it doesn't get much use now.
I still have a CRT TV I received for Christmas in 2005 and use it to play video games from the PS2/Xbox/GameCube era and earlier.
The games look very good on this TV, and the picture is clear and consistent. They absolutely still have a place on the market today.
Then again, it probably helps that those older games were specifically developed for display on these older CRT TVs.
yeah, but the problem is for the weight of the one CRT, you could probably ship a half dozen LCDs.
Half a plasma tv, though, lmfao.
I still have my optiquest viewsonic monitor. I put a dust cover over it and put it in the closet. It should still work just fine, but I haven't plugged it in since like 2002. I probably should, just to see if it does work.
hey, if nothing else, you could use it as a paperweight, lol
My high school had one for a tv that emitted this high pitched whine which gave me visual migraines and headaches. I thought I was losing my mind seeing a flashing rainbow in the left corner of my vision every time the tv turned on.
I do not miss them.
no I know what you're talking about, though it never bothered me.
You could always tell when one was turned on, even when it was muted.
I'm sorry they gave you problems, though.
still watch my vhs tapes on a rack mounted pvm !
awesome =)
What the fuck is this love for CRT? Whether it's new or old, it isn't warranted.
Seriously, 240p resolution where you can physically see each pixel on the screen, and games were designed with art direction that intentionally utilized the light emitters to smooth out edges on the glass, while they also fired light directly into your eyes, and were insanely heavy.
"it worked forever" until the parts literally fucking burned out, or the emitters actually burned your fucking screen, let alone your retina. Which, normally, would still have been 5-10 years.
This shit isn't like the solid, cast-iron, sewing stands from the early 1900's which were built to last forever. This is just cheap electronic junk from the 1990's which was still made in China and Indonesia with no intention to keep them working.
Seriously, pick a product that isn't shit. Like those sewing machines, or antique furniture, or even stone masonry for construction.
TV's could only go that high, monitors can go alot higher.
depends on the tv. I've mentioned it once or twice, but my fiance's mother had a CRT that was 1080i/1080p (can't remember). weighed a ton, but it looked nice, and the tube meant it actually had room for halfway decent speakers in the case, lol
Monitors could go higher thanks to VGA connections. But, that's the limit. The limit is basically 720p, which is good for a xbox 360. Not much past that.
You have no clue what you're talking about. Bog standard prebuilt retail monitors did 1024x768 at 85hz. A standard gaming monitor would run 1600x1200 at 85hz, and high end gaming screens would do 2048x1536 at 85-100hz.
That's higher than "2k".
lol, fiance's mother had a 1080i(1080p? Can't remember) CRT in the mid-two thousands...had a nice picture, admittedly weighed a ton like you pointed out. Even cheap sets were reliable, though. LCD/LED are fine, I just liked the CRTs a little better. I wont deny some of that is nostalgia-goggles, but If I could find a hi-def CRT anymore, I'd buy it in a minute.
I was considering remodeling my gaming room and I've sunk hours into finding a table that would actually have a weight rating that could hold my CRT and the consoles that would connect to it.
Ultimately I decided, if I wanted one, I'd have to build one.
Meanwhile, a little bit of rose colored glasses because old tubes can have their own issues. I remember getting a bunch of adhesive magnetic strips to fix screen geometry and setting up a mirror so I could see the effects.
CRT construction is basically a lost art today. The machines have been scrapped, everyone who operated them retired or died. It's kind of sad.
=P you could just keep an eye out for an old dresser or a bookshelf at thrift stores/antique shops.
Heck, keep an eye out for a rear projection or an old console tv that quit and gut the console, lol. Heck, a while back, somebody down the street had a rear projection out on the curb for free, but I didn't have a way to get it home safely, lol (I didn't have my truck, and I live on a hill)
You can't make 1080p CRT's that's the point. 1080i was 720p, that was the maximum limit of an HD CRT which used different technology than regular CRT's.
I still have several. They are very good for being heavy and making white noise.
I think 1080i basically cheated using the Interlace method that CRTs used for years, doing half the screen at once.
If you don't like them, I understand, but I do. =)
Plasma and LCD TVs used 1080i to cheat for a while before true 1080p became the norm
that's what I thought, thank you =)
Bullshit. A normal gaming monitor around 2005 would run 1600x1200 at 85hz, that's 200 more lines of vertical resolution than 1080p. A high end gaming monitor like a 24" widescreen trinitron would do 1920x1200 at well over 100hz or 2048x1536 at 85hz, higher than "2k" is today.
And that was for monitors built in 2004.
LCDs are such an unbelievably shitty technology that's taken twenty years for them to just barely start catching up to CRTs in terms of resolution. Response time and image quality are still down the toilet.
It's just pathetic that you have to lie this badly.
A 24" CRT monitor. Yeah, that's pretty fucking high-end alright. Besides still not believing you on the stats, how much more expensive than the computer do you think that monitor typically was? Four times? Ten times? I'm sure you're gonna tell me that in 2005 you could buy one from Wal-Mart for $50.
Considering how long gamers have been obsessing about refresh rate and resolution in that time period, CRT's would not have gone away if you were right, which you're not.
CRT "resolution" isn't as straightforward, but this guy exists: https://crtdatabase.com/crts/sony/sony-gdm-fw900
Max 2304 x 1440 @ 80 Hz. Only 92 lbs too :)
Their specs are off. I had one of the HP rebrands, it actually ran 2048x1536 at a comfortable 85hz.
shut the fuck zoomer. CRTs were made for standard definition content. you probably have no idea what it actually looks like but it looked WAY better than those shit rips you see on YouTube. The BEST way to watch SD content will always be CRTs. the BEST way to play certain video games will ALWAYS be CRTs. die mad about it. your oled fires light right at your eyes too, dumb fuck. we're they heavy? yeah. how often do you move your tv though? is that really a factor that matters? plasmas were WAY harder to handle in that regard.
and yeah they work a real real long fucking time. I have a consumer model from 94 in my bedroom, it was barely ever used in its day so the picture is unbelievably crisp. I have a professional model from 91 that is so crisp it will knock your fucking socks off, I guarantee it. 5- 10 years... HA ive seen working crts from the 1960s! OLEDs are just as burn in prone as CRTs and if you think anyone's retina was burned youre even more retarded than you sound.
the product wasn't shit, it was invariably more reliable than modern displays.. I do custom av installs and have for years I KNOW lmao there was no software there was no bugs, no cec, no edid NONE OF THAT you gave em the signal and they fuckin displayed it, end of story. now do you want to argue about 1970s amplifiers cause I'll clean your fucking clock on that subject too you smarmy zoomer cunt.
You could get 16:9 HDTVs near the end, they just werent as common, and they cost an arm and a leg...
they actually were common in PAL regions... think they started broadcasting in 16:9 in like 94 or so over there. sony called em super trinitrons, cool shit.. but academy (4:3) will always be king in my heart.
huh.
shame none of my ntsc content would look right on a PAL tv, but oh well.
Shut the fuck up, Zoomer. I still have them and there's a reason I don't use them on any modern system. SD content is 480p max. Yes, old video games look okay on CRT's for the exact reason I said, faggot. And yes, moving a television is hard when you have to, and as you age, you end up not being able to move it at all. It's like a very shitty piano, or less useful anvil.
I'm sure that it does last a real long time when you don't fucking turn it on. No, OLED's are not nearly as bad as CRTs.
If you have a 60's CRT, then I pitty you for your monitor sized screen on a television weighting in at 75 lbs that you literally can't connect anything to, and can't see any broadcast television with.
You're an idiot if you think it's more reliable. As you said, when you don't use it, it works great.
I want you to pick a good old product, you fuck-witted retard.
who the fuck said anything about using them on modern systems? that's just as retarded as trying to watch SD on a modern television. I am old so I watch old shit.. like old recordings of broadcast television. the only way to watch it and have it look right is using a CRT. and thats a fact. do old games look OKAY??? Yeah that's why every composite upscaler has crt filters, faggot.
I didn't say I never turn it on, I said it wasn't used much in it's day... meaning the THIRTY YEARS it sat in my neighbors kitchen being used for a few minutes evey morning to watch the news before they left. I use it damn near everyday.
I do not have a 60s crt but have seen them working. let's check in on an OLED in 50 yesrs and see how it goes.
they were absolutely more reliable. do you know how many fucking stupid issues I deal with all the time with retarded TV OSs doing professional installs? do you know how many times I replaced basically new tvs that shit the bed for seemingly no reason? they were more reliable by nature because they were vastly less complicated. you're retarded if you can't understand that.