I'm getting that foreboding feeling I've been getting awhile before the whole shitshow recently happened again. We've seen that they're willing to jail their opposition, if they can get away with it they'll ban them outright, we've seen how they'll organise intelligence agencies to help an assassination against their opposition if none of that works.
Who's to say they won't just turn around after seeing polling and say nah, you're not getting in to Trump? They could end up doing it during the election itself if they think he's going to win. Who would fucking stop them? Most people are total larpers, the normies would cheer it on because orange man bad and I wouldn't be surprised if they went as far as to have Kamala simply sworn in then and there with the media all celebrating it. I think they might try and do this even if he managed to score a landslide despite their cheating which given how thoroughly unpopular Harris is even among leftists is entirely possible.
Again, it's not as if they wouldn't pull this sort of shit and rub it in everyone's faces, they've done far worse publicly.
Actually an excellent question. They already 'just said no' in 2020 and stole a whole government in arguably the most brazen coup in history. The only things that made it interpretable as anything else were the tiniest shreds of implausible deniability, plus some prototype examples of reality-denial of a kind we came to see a lot more of through the plandemic years. Reality hasn't yet caught up to the fact that America was stolen. The average normalcuck never will catch up, because the gravity of what happened and the fact that it happened with no resistance is too scary and painful to admit (again not dissimilar to the psychological trauma of the plandemic).
So there's a lot of hope and cope building towards this election if people really think the current admin, when asked 'a-are you going to follow the rules and hand the country back now?', are going to answer 'sure ok' like a joyrider parking a stolen car back at its owner's address. The only thing that could really make them do that is fear. But I think quite a lot of them now genuinely fear a second Trump term just as much as they pretended to fear it in 2020, because they've spent 4 years doing everything they can to justify that fear of reprisal, including pulling all the most tyrannical tricks of the average banana republic.
I mean Trump's head came within millimeters of exploding like a watermelon live on CNN not that long ago, and they wanted that to happen. They tried to engineer it. With people willing to go that far, what do people think is actually going to make them concede defeat? Politeness? Fatigue? It's just not going to happen without fear and they don't seem to be feeling enough of it in the right direction.
Don't fixate on any particular person or incident. It's irrelevant in a conflict like this.
The boiling will keep up until the lid pops off.
One Democratic Congressman, Jamie Raskin, already publicly confirmed that's the plan.
https://thefederalist.com/2024/08/06/firebrand-leftist-jamie-raskin-said-congress-must-disqualify-trump-predicted-civil-war-conditions/
Will this be different from the 2016 denial or the 2020 denial? There will always be people who think Trump is Hitler no matter what happens. However, it does look like the left has no more momentum or power to lean on. If they say No, they won't be in a position to enforce it for very long.
I hope you're right, I just pay attention to my instinct, I do think the normies are slowly turning on the elites purely for self-preservation because they've realised how deadly virtue signalling really is. However there's still a significant chunk of the population that simply hates Trump and will do anything to get rid of him. It's not necessarily about ideology for them, they just hate him and are willing to literally burn down the west over it.
You'll never convince everyone to turn away from this crap, but I at least want to see fractures happening in the deep leftist circles over all of this nonsense. I'm not seeing that though at least in the UK and other places so I'm wary about what's going to happen in America. Even if Trump wins legit and most people go oh well that's that I could easily see some violent sperging happening and the elites will definitely nudge retards into it as they often like to.
You don't need to convince everyone, just enough people who matter.
in 2020 a lot of the rank and file military we're pro Trump and pro American freedom.
now, I'm not so sure. the poor recruitment numbers tells me the good old boys don't want to sign up to fight for the current administration, which means the majority of recruits are probably people who support the current regime.
they could just say no with military force, and the soldiers would be on board.
That's a good thing for us. It means the ranks of the enemy are full of weaklings and can't hack its. The kind of people who fly a plane off the side of an aircraft carrier or fall asleep at the literal helm of a ship and crash into a tanker. Those have both actually happened recently I might add.
That's a military that will be easily defeated by an armed civilian rebellion. That's a military that can't defend the weapons and equipment stockpiles scattered around every state in the country. That's a military that will desert rather than fight once things start getting tough.
Funnily enough, the military response in the west isn't something I'm worried about because of how many white hats there are. The people who might do something about it are literally too retarded to even fly a plane or operate artillery correctly so we're good on that front. The recruitment numbers are so abysmal that they're having to keep naval ships as an example docked because they don't have enough staff.
I think there's credibility to the conspiracy theory that they're using mass immigration and importing criminals on purpose as part of their new army against the general population. It's a very common trend throughout history that a dying regime relies on foreigners to sustain itself.
It's...a weird situation.
I'm not "blackpilled" or anything, but I can definitely see the possibility of some serious fuckery. And, much more disappointingly, I can absolutely see the possibility where there's some absolute fuckery...and no one bothers to do anything about it. That's the lame part.
I don't think it's the likeliest outcome, but they could try to suspend US elections, for the first time ever, and the mass majority would just nod. And the people who have been crying about insurrections would actually cheer.
They could also jail Trump before the election. They could also say he's ineligible, after he wins. Which, ironically, is exactly what they accused him of trying to do. But it would be fine when they do it.
The pathetic part is how so many people would go along with it. It's not the sole cause, but we're all so fucking comfortable in this modern world. It could take years or decades after an obvious coup to reach any sort of point where people say enough. Heck, we've already had plenty of US coups, going back decades. We just do it bloodlessly nowadays.
One positive is, just like with our republic, it's not just majority rules. Even if most people go along with it, enough people in concentrated areas might object that we'd see a sea change, and a shifting of the Overton window. Texas, for example. While they're not as based as people say, they've still got the potential to push back, and plenty of other states are similar. So you might see a situation where, even if the people aren't objecting in any organized way, individual states push back and refuse to go along with it. Which, again, leads to some more interesting situations.
Anyway, it's something to keep in mind - Dems definitely aren't above trying it - but I don't think it's the likeliest...although it's more likely than it's ever been in US history so, if it were going to happen, now would be ripe for it.
But, if they can't cheat, and Trump wins, I think the likeliest outcome is they'll fight it, but have to let him in. If Trump can score that "official" win, they're whine and cry, but he'll end up in office.
Voting isn’t real dude don’t worry too much about it. Besides, aren’t you guys on track for your 7th PM in 3 years or something like that?
Lulz I don't think Keir Starmer is going to last that long with how many people he's pissing off but we'll see, but my point is I think that the elites are going to go mask off just to spite Trump if he wins. If nothing of note happens it will be a miracle.
Trump is an elite. His wife (Ivana) went around with jizzlane picking up kids for epstein[1]. All of his adult children have married {{{elites}}}.
The whole idea that trump is an outsider or anything approaching a real threat to “TPTB” is what’s known as kayfabe
[1] according to the first epstein victim to come forward, Maria Farmer:
https://communities.win/c/KotakuInAction2/p/1994fdoOdZ/epstein-was-just-one-small-head-/c
You're retarded. If Trump were part of the club, he wouldn't be facing a million felony charges and they wouldn't have tried to kill him.