And yet it got positive reception, and open discussion. Why are we taking a broad approach to restricting speech here again?
And don't get me wrong, fuck that pedo freak right off, but why extend that to proper discussions? You just make it harder for anyone else coming in to follow along with what was being talked about.
There's been talk (and attempts) at this stuff for years (For example, Here's KiA5). The problem is that the more this stuff happens, the more splintered it all gets and each tiny little offshoot is more personalised and niche and as a result, more insular.
Unless you get a near 100% adoption rate via exodus, it's just going to cause less cohesion. And what sucks is that people like Dom know this. So either people jump ship and the community gets divided up into more factions, or we stick around and bear his bullshit. It's a lose lose for everyone but people like Dom, which is why for months now people have been pleading with him to either change his ways or let someone else in to help out, all to no avail.
And how do we know that now? You've censored it, and it's down to your diminishingly trustworthy word.
Since when did we shift from free speech, even unlikable speech, to censoring that which is uncomfortable? I know I'm not the first to make this point, but come on, this is hard to defend as anything less than censorship because it makes you uncomfortable.
And I have no problem with it making you uncomfortable or angry or whatever. But this place was always meant to get away from that Reddit mentality of constant censorship on the emotional reactions of controlling mods. You were legitimately better than this. And I get that modding leaves anyone jaded, but it's such a shame that you don't want to even consider that maybe you're not doing the right thing by the rest of the sub.
There are several ways to find out exactly what was said if you really want to.
Let me be clear about something for a moment when it comes to "free speech" regarding KIA. I am more open and lackadaisical on viewpoint discrimination than anyone, in either KIA's history of moderation.
Prior to coming here, you have never been able to advocate for children getting raped. No in in KIA1 ever allowed it. No one ever allowed in KIA2 ever allowed it before I got added. I carry on that tradition.
There are several ways to find out exactly what was said if you really want to.
"Please sir, you're free to speak in this specially designated free-speech zone"
What a fucking joke.
you have never been able to advocate for children getting raped. No in in KIA1 ever allowed it. No one ever allowed in KIA2 ever allowed it before I got added. I carry on that tradition.
Cool, great, but frankly, I doubt you in that this comment included what you say it included. It might be interpreted that way. But I doubt it's as cut and dry as you are making it seem to be. Your word does not have the trust-worthiness that you seem to think it does. And going "well, if you just jump through these hoops that make your experience objectively more frustrating, you can still totally follow along" is utterly stupid.
So sure. Carry on and continue to pretend like nothing is a problem. Like you're not jaded and beginning to ignore long-time users here simply because YOU don't want to acknowledge there's a problem. Hide behind that which is easy to defend while you ignore your other shit solely because other places are less open and "lackadaisical". Because again, fuck that pedo shit, but I still doubt you.
Edit: After looking it up, yeah, I don't think this should have been removed. Is it an asshole comment? You bet. Is it encouraging rape? No, and only someone demented would think so. Especially considering you don't know the circumstances. What if the man who got her pregnant was also legally underage? I'm not a fan of it, but I'm not retarded enough to not know that these days, sadly, kids are getting sexual far younger than they should. And they shouldn't. That isn't encouraging rape, and you damn well know it.
And yet it got positive reception, and open discussion. Why are we taking a broad approach to restricting speech here again?
And don't get me wrong, fuck that pedo freak right off, but why extend that to proper discussions? You just make it harder for anyone else coming in to follow along with what was being talked about.
Is it time for kia3?
There's been talk (and attempts) at this stuff for years (For example, Here's KiA5). The problem is that the more this stuff happens, the more splintered it all gets and each tiny little offshoot is more personalised and niche and as a result, more insular.
Unless you get a near 100% adoption rate via exodus, it's just going to cause less cohesion. And what sucks is that people like Dom know this. So either people jump ship and the community gets divided up into more factions, or we stick around and bear his bullshit. It's a lose lose for everyone but people like Dom, which is why for months now people have been pleading with him to either change his ways or let someone else in to help out, all to no avail.
Because it was of the same level. It was victim-blaming the rape of a minor. That isn't a proper discussion.
If it gets a positive reception, then fuck everyone who upvoted it.
And how do we know that now? You've censored it, and it's down to your diminishingly trustworthy word.
Since when did we shift from free speech, even unlikable speech, to censoring that which is uncomfortable? I know I'm not the first to make this point, but come on, this is hard to defend as anything less than censorship because it makes you uncomfortable.
And I have no problem with it making you uncomfortable or angry or whatever. But this place was always meant to get away from that Reddit mentality of constant censorship on the emotional reactions of controlling mods. You were legitimately better than this. And I get that modding leaves anyone jaded, but it's such a shame that you don't want to even consider that maybe you're not doing the right thing by the rest of the sub.
There are several ways to find out exactly what was said if you really want to.
Let me be clear about something for a moment when it comes to "free speech" regarding KIA. I am more open and lackadaisical on viewpoint discrimination than anyone, in either KIA's history of moderation.
Prior to coming here, you have never been able to advocate for children getting raped. No in in KIA1 ever allowed it. No one ever allowed in KIA2 ever allowed it before I got added. I carry on that tradition.
"Please sir, you're free to speak in this specially designated free-speech zone"
What a fucking joke.
Cool, great, but frankly, I doubt you in that this comment included what you say it included. It might be interpreted that way. But I doubt it's as cut and dry as you are making it seem to be. Your word does not have the trust-worthiness that you seem to think it does. And going "well, if you just jump through these hoops that make your experience objectively more frustrating, you can still totally follow along" is utterly stupid.
So sure. Carry on and continue to pretend like nothing is a problem. Like you're not jaded and beginning to ignore long-time users here simply because YOU don't want to acknowledge there's a problem. Hide behind that which is easy to defend while you ignore your other shit solely because other places are less open and "lackadaisical". Because again, fuck that pedo shit, but I still doubt you.
Edit: After looking it up, yeah, I don't think this should have been removed. Is it an asshole comment? You bet. Is it encouraging rape? No, and only someone demented would think so. Especially considering you don't know the circumstances. What if the man who got her pregnant was also legally underage? I'm not a fan of it, but I'm not retarded enough to not know that these days, sadly, kids are getting sexual far younger than they should. And they shouldn't. That isn't encouraging rape, and you damn well know it.
Whatever happens I don't envy you having to litigate this shit.