Their first past the post voting systems HEAVILY favours the establishment parties.
It's a similar issue that happened in France, they don't need to 'cheat' like in the US, the system is designed in such a way to shut out emerging populist parties.
Put it this way, in America you can still turn it around through an election with pressure and vigilance.
In a lot of Europe, normie programming has to break to where bodies pile up on a daily rate and authorities are targeted before enough pressure is there to change.
The European system ensures a new third reich happens because unlike the US and other countries, there's no pressure release valves to discontent.
I watched Seattle burn during the Covid riots, and politicians lead rioters to each other's houses. All of those politicians are still in power.
Heck, right now all of my lefty friends think we'll have a fourth Reich with Trump. The weird part is it's all middle class white people from around the world who think this. They can't see their own evil, even if you show riots, deaths, and incompetence.
As someone who's living this shit there's a lot of people out there who are fed up but they are nowhere near as organised as the opposition. You're right that a lot of normies are a big part of the problem, I don't think even bodies piling up are going to get the normies to even think about things, it's going to only be when they seen angry mob of islamists marching out in the streets and beating people up that they'll finally get scared and demand something be done about it.
The problem is, they view being racist as literally the worse thing in the world and they think that any kind of clamp down on migration is racist so they're completely trapped ideologically. Which is precisely why I point out that virtue signalling is a death cult because they worse thing about these shit heads is they will do all these mental gymnastics and then expect everybody else around them to do the same.
Labour didn't win, the Tories lost. With luck, proper conservatives will complete the pivot to Remain by next election and leave the husk of the Tory party to rot.
Brexit 'technically' went through but the Conservatives backstabbed the British public as they always do by copy-pasting EU law into our own. They did the old "Oh we'll totally decide to drop whichever laws we don't like" and in the end they did nothing.
2019 was Labour's worst defeat in 100 years and in 2024 their total votes actually went down. In the time when Tories went from 14 million votes (2019) to under 7m (2024), Labour went from 10.3m to 9.7m. Keir Starmer's own constituency returned him with 37k votes in 2019 but under 19k in 2024. Any suggestion of Labour having popular support is a lie.
If Nigel Farage can stop cucking himself to the left possibly but he's been extremely annoying lately at calling out the left on their tactics and should take Trump's attitude to the media. It's a major problem though with the British where we really are a totally cucked nation, I've not got a lot of hope. Reform have very much been attacking their own grassroots movement these days and are trying to get on the left's good side which is partly why they didn't do as well as even the exit polls predicted.
I thought people in the UK were fed up with being overrun like this. How did Labour win?
Their first past the post voting systems HEAVILY favours the establishment parties.
It's a similar issue that happened in France, they don't need to 'cheat' like in the US, the system is designed in such a way to shut out emerging populist parties.
Dang. So there is little hope? I mean not like America isn’t free of election issues. I’m glad I live in Texas at least although that could turn blue
There is but it'd take a FULL revolt to happen.
Put it this way, in America you can still turn it around through an election with pressure and vigilance.
In a lot of Europe, normie programming has to break to where bodies pile up on a daily rate and authorities are targeted before enough pressure is there to change.
The European system ensures a new third reich happens because unlike the US and other countries, there's no pressure release valves to discontent.
I watched Seattle burn during the Covid riots, and politicians lead rioters to each other's houses. All of those politicians are still in power.
Heck, right now all of my lefty friends think we'll have a fourth Reich with Trump. The weird part is it's all middle class white people from around the world who think this. They can't see their own evil, even if you show riots, deaths, and incompetence.
As someone who's living this shit there's a lot of people out there who are fed up but they are nowhere near as organised as the opposition. You're right that a lot of normies are a big part of the problem, I don't think even bodies piling up are going to get the normies to even think about things, it's going to only be when they seen angry mob of islamists marching out in the streets and beating people up that they'll finally get scared and demand something be done about it.
The problem is, they view being racist as literally the worse thing in the world and they think that any kind of clamp down on migration is racist so they're completely trapped ideologically. Which is precisely why I point out that virtue signalling is a death cult because they worse thing about these shit heads is they will do all these mental gymnastics and then expect everybody else around them to do the same.
Labour didn't win, the Tories lost. With luck, proper conservatives will complete the pivot to Remain by next election and leave the husk of the Tory party to rot.
So Brexit didn’t go through?
Brexit 'technically' went through but the Conservatives backstabbed the British public as they always do by copy-pasting EU law into our own. They did the old "Oh we'll totally decide to drop whichever laws we don't like" and in the end they did nothing.
The UK would have to import some "proper" conservatives for that to work, since they currently don't have any.
Labour didn't win, the Torys simply lost their voters.
Looks at the numbers for labour from this election and the one 5 years ago. Iirc the turnout wasn't even 5% better.
2019 was Labour's worst defeat in 100 years and in 2024 their total votes actually went down. In the time when Tories went from 14 million votes (2019) to under 7m (2024), Labour went from 10.3m to 9.7m. Keir Starmer's own constituency returned him with 37k votes in 2019 but under 19k in 2024. Any suggestion of Labour having popular support is a lie.
Wow, I didn't know that. That is fucking brutal.
People got sick of the conservatives and went with the new party (reform?) while normies stuck with the tories so the vote kinda got split in a way.
Plus labor won the cities
You think reform will grow?
If Nigel Farage can stop cucking himself to the left possibly but he's been extremely annoying lately at calling out the left on their tactics and should take Trump's attitude to the media. It's a major problem though with the British where we really are a totally cucked nation, I've not got a lot of hope. Reform have very much been attacking their own grassroots movement these days and are trying to get on the left's good side which is partly why they didn't do as well as even the exit polls predicted.