But I'm not backstabbing anybody. I really just want people to try to be logical instead of thinking with their feelings and doing something stupid that will make the rest of us look bad by association.
That reminds me, someone else told me to "STOP PUNCHING RIGHT" a while ago, but ironically it seems like the people in that group are actually the ones who attack the right the most.
I really just want people to try to be logical instead of thinking with their feelings
I hope you’re young. Because then there might still be time for you to learn that logic plays almost no role in society. 90% of people either can’t process it or don’t abide by it. That’s why rhetoric is all that matters. The sooner you accept this, the better you will function in this world.
Dialectic is good for nudging people who mostly agree with you. It will never convince someone who is neutral, much less antagonistic. That's where rhetoric wins.
I'm not sure how that contradicts anything I've said. I'm already well aware that people are easily manipulated by propaganda. I was just hoping the people on this site would be a little bit better about it.
You're acting as if I'm saying we shouldn't have shot the shooter. Obviously defend yourself with force when your life is threatened. But the original argument was that it's perfectly reasonable to be disgusted by the left attempting and supporting an assassination attempt. Trying to paint me as a pacifist is completely disingenuous.
It's always shocking to me just how many people have no idea of the value of initiative in a fight. They don't realize that "just let them strike first then fight back, so you look better" is saying "just vastly increase the likelihood you will die, so you look better"
What do you think I'm shilling for?
You're the typical "leftism but slower" conservative who would shoot your own side in the back for the crime of returning fire.
But I'm not backstabbing anybody. I really just want people to try to be logical instead of thinking with their feelings and doing something stupid that will make the rest of us look bad by association.
That reminds me, someone else told me to "STOP PUNCHING RIGHT" a while ago, but ironically it seems like the people in that group are actually the ones who attack the right the most.
I hope you’re young. Because then there might still be time for you to learn that logic plays almost no role in society. 90% of people either can’t process it or don’t abide by it. That’s why rhetoric is all that matters. The sooner you accept this, the better you will function in this world.
Dialectic is good for nudging people who mostly agree with you. It will never convince someone who is neutral, much less antagonistic. That's where rhetoric wins.
I'm not sure how that contradicts anything I've said. I'm already well aware that people are easily manipulated by propaganda. I was just hoping the people on this site would be a little bit better about it.
You're acting as if I'm saying we shouldn't have shot the shooter. Obviously defend yourself with force when your life is threatened. But the original argument was that it's perfectly reasonable to be disgusted by the left attempting and supporting an assassination attempt. Trying to paint me as a pacifist is completely disingenuous.
It's always shocking to me just how many people have no idea of the value of initiative in a fight. They don't realize that "just let them strike first then fight back, so you look better" is saying "just vastly increase the likelihood you will die, so you look better"