Hard disagree. There are boundaries for what is acceptable, and even in international war there are rules of conflict set in place. You just come across as a fedposter or internet edgelord if you try to argue that we're actually justified in committing assassinations or political violence.
The whole reason why we can condemn people for supporting the assassination attempt is because we've never resorted to those kinds of vulgar tactics. And look what's happened, it's damaged the left's reputation and caused a lot of people to shift to our side. Political violence is the last thing that anyone should be advocating right now.
They are at war with you. You can keep pretending that it doesn't count so long as you aren't also at war with them, but that doesn't make it true. It just makes you a fool.
If you get in a verbal argument with someone then that doesn't suddenly open things up to physical violence, and if they take the first punch then it makes them look bad and makes us look good, which is exactly what has just happened.
Ask the South how fighting a moral war worked out for them.
Spoilers: The Yankees wrote them as evil racists who wanted to keep slavery, while Lincoln, who loved the UNITED States and only wanted to keep it together, wept at his desk when the Confederates took Fort Sumpter.
I'm sorry but you are a fucking idiot if you think looking good means anything in winning wars for survival. You're the kind of guy who is going to try to hold his chin high and tell himself "at least I didn't compromise my principles" while your enemy slips the blindfold down.
Looking good is quite literally the entire war. It's a war being fought through media and appearances. If you start LARPing as a real-life fascist then you will get shut down immediately and lose all support. It's not even just a matter of morals, but also simple practicality and effectiveness.
But I'm not backstabbing anybody. I really just want people to try to be logical instead of thinking with their feelings and doing something stupid that will make the rest of us look bad by association.
That reminds me, someone else told me to "STOP PUNCHING RIGHT" a while ago, but ironically it seems like the people in that group are actually the ones who attack the right the most.
You're trotting out the same tired "muh optics" horse shit the tradcuck right has used to lull us into passive inaction while the left takes territory for decades. And now they literally just tried to murder our leader on live TV and here you are pulling out the same old "remember, if you fight your enemies they win" garbage.
You're acting as if I'm saying we shouldn't have shot the shooter. Obviously defend yourself with force when your life is threatened. But the original argument was that it's perfectly reasonable to be disgusted by the left attempting and supporting an assassination attempt. Trying to paint me as a pacifist is completely disingenuous.
Hard disagree. There are boundaries for what is acceptable, and even in international war there are rules of conflict set in place. You just come across as a fedposter or internet edgelord if you try to argue that we're actually justified in committing assassinations or political violence.
The whole reason why we can condemn people for supporting the assassination attempt is because we've never resorted to those kinds of vulgar tactics. And look what's happened, it's damaged the left's reputation and caused a lot of people to shift to our side. Political violence is the last thing that anyone should be advocating right now.
They are at war with you. You can keep pretending that it doesn't count so long as you aren't also at war with them, but that doesn't make it true. It just makes you a fool.
If you get in a verbal argument with someone then that doesn't suddenly open things up to physical violence, and if they take the first punch then it makes them look bad and makes us look good, which is exactly what has just happened.
Ask the South how fighting a moral war worked out for them.
Spoilers: The Yankees wrote them as evil racists who wanted to keep slavery, while Lincoln, who loved the UNITED States and only wanted to keep it together, wept at his desk when the Confederates took Fort Sumpter.
The outcome of the Civil War actually proves my point. I'm not exactly sure what alternative outcome you think could have occurred there.
I'm sorry but you are a fucking idiot if you think looking good means anything in winning wars for survival. You're the kind of guy who is going to try to hold his chin high and tell himself "at least I didn't compromise my principles" while your enemy slips the blindfold down.
Looking good is quite literally the entire war. It's a war being fought through media and appearances. If you start LARPing as a real-life fascist then you will get shut down immediately and lose all support. It's not even just a matter of morals, but also simple practicality and effectiveness.
Found the shill
What do you think I'm shilling for?
You're the typical "leftism but slower" conservative who would shoot your own side in the back for the crime of returning fire.
But I'm not backstabbing anybody. I really just want people to try to be logical instead of thinking with their feelings and doing something stupid that will make the rest of us look bad by association.
That reminds me, someone else told me to "STOP PUNCHING RIGHT" a while ago, but ironically it seems like the people in that group are actually the ones who attack the right the most.
You're trotting out the same tired "muh optics" horse shit the tradcuck right has used to lull us into passive inaction while the left takes territory for decades. And now they literally just tried to murder our leader on live TV and here you are pulling out the same old "remember, if you fight your enemies they win" garbage.
You're acting as if I'm saying we shouldn't have shot the shooter. Obviously defend yourself with force when your life is threatened. But the original argument was that it's perfectly reasonable to be disgusted by the left attempting and supporting an assassination attempt. Trying to paint me as a pacifist is completely disingenuous.