Curious to see the opinions here about this Project 2025 I keep seeing pop up. It seems to make Reddit cry out like it’s Ragnarok coming. And apparently John Oliver did a piece on it (I haven’t watched) and that drew a lot of criticism from that crowd… so that makes me inclined to think it’s probably a good thing, but I’ve only just started to look into the details. Wanted to solicit viewpoints from here in case anyone has done a deep dive on this already. Would anything in it sway you away from voting for Trump?
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First off, who gives a toss what John Oliver thinks? He should be deported.
Secondly, if they can actually do it and would make genuine effort towards it, good. Reining in the activist judiciary and gutting the federal bureaucracy would be a good thing.
But they probably won't. "Conservatives" observably don't want to win. In my whole lifetime I've only seen them shamble from one cucking opportunity to the next with little variation.
So as far as why I'm voting, the answer is simple. I'm not voting Trump because I have any hope that the system can be reformed peacefully, certainly not for the promise of whatever policy initiative they spout. I don't think it can be reformed, I think we'll have a civil war in my lifetime.
I'm voting Trump because that seems like the shortest path to liberal tears. I hate these people. Hate isn't even a strong enough word, nor is loathe. I want them to suffer. It makes me happy to see them in pain.
if there is a civil war, it would be a civil guerrilla war. thanks to the internet, the lines are not drawn geographically. instead, we have tons of low density land versus a bunch of high-density tumors.
in my opinion, a civil war would just make everything worse for everyone. your own neighbors would not trust you, and you would not be able to trust your own neighbors. Irish car bombs would be a regular occurrence. shipments of basic supplies like food and water would constantly be ambushed. if you aren't shot , you would likely die of starvation or thirst. as the country descends into chaos, warlords sponsored by foreign meddlers would reign supreme.
I'm not saying we can vote our way out of our situation, but I know civil war would only make things worse.
It's the price of ignoring that "eternal vigilance" thing. Boomers voted for every big government sociopath and were too stupid to figure out that "poor minority" "free gibs" policy would steal freedom from their children.
And the result? You need a permit for practically everything. A third of Americans cannot make a living without a license to practice their work. Congress pumps out more pages of laws per year than human beings on the planet: and you're expected to know and adhere to every self-conflicting poorly-defined letter.
The pain waiting for all of us now is a direct result of stunning dereliction of duty by those who were charged to protect their children. The future pain and struggle will be 100% deserved for those people and the only tragedy here is that most of them will die peacefully in their sleep before it happens.
Slight correction on two points: there will be general geographic lines. Pretty much everything in the former Confederacy (minus south Florida, northern Virginia, and maybe parts of Kentucky) would want to form "these United States." Most of the midwest and southwest would be down, too. The cities would then either fall in line or the magic mystery food/water/power generators would be turned off.
As far as the trust goes, in the border areas, or near cities, yeah, it's gonna turn vicious. The leftists have shown time and again that they view the "natural order" being them issuing the rest of us edicts, and us toeing the line. When that stops happening, they're going to expend a lot of time, energy and blood to keep it happening. In areas that are predominantly red, it's going to be easier. Prominent lefties are going to have unpleasant sit-down chats with people who have the knowledge, temperament and equipment to cause them issues, and then the choice: leave or keep your mouth shut.
I can see the mexican cartels being a major force down south. The massive amount of illegals will be a wild card because of all the different loyalties they have to their home countries.
John Oliver is just as bad as all the other dual citizens. He’s got a white guilt fetish fantasy.
I agree with most everything you said. Just to clear my name, I only watched John Oliver for a little bit when he first aired, but it didn’t take long to realize how politically left it was and how a lot of the “facts” were framed in a libtard light.
Yes at this point I'm voting Trump to see people cry, it's all I have at the moment lol.
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Spend less time thought policing people who actually belong here, and more time taking care of the pedo pajeet.
Its been parroted by liberals, I doubt it actually exists. Probably just something to rile up liberals.
Having heard nothing elsw about it, it sounds like gay, communist, WEF, gobbledygook.
I'm pretty sure an AI replacement for the administrative tasks will be far more efficient and open to transparent scrutiny than people with their own motivations doing, or not doing, the tasks that they are paid to do.
AI doesn't need to use the bathroom, for example, and so worrying about how many genders or disabilities can use them is less of a strain on tax payers. AI also doesn't need sleep, insurance, dental, holidays, unions or salary.
The money saved, and the efficiency increase, speaks for itself.
All those formerly enslaved by the bureaucracy of the patriarchy can now go and explore their true selves in artistic pursuits and philosophies.
I only see it as a win-win.
It's 100% a psy-op to keep NPCs occupied and distract from the real BS that's going on.
A TV program to program NPCs running it is just further confirmation of what it really is. It's all just more fodder to make the normies feel like they know what's going on.
I only just heard about it recently, too. I think it's a psyop to distract the Left from realizing Agenda 2030 isn't in their interests.
Non-American here, what is Project 2025?
Essentially a plan to gut the administrative state and purge it of leftist political actors.
So basically what the Left has been doing for ages?
That’s kind of the conclusion I came to after reading more about it.
Everything in it is awesome.
Which sadly means Republicans will do none of it.
It's a real think. Heritage Foundation is behind it. https://www.project2025.org/policy/