The difference a day makes, I swear this drama has escalated quick in TWO days, he's put out a full tweet of it, I don't have X so someone else link it as I ain't making an account to that hellscape for this.
TLDR, he DID talk to a minor (hard on what age as that could be a 15 year old in the states but they live in France) back in 2017 but NO pictures were sent, NEVER met and it says it sometimes was inappropriate talk but that could've been the average gamer talk. Now he was banned in 2020 so they sat on this for 3 YEARS but Twitch settled a lawsuit he had with them and there was NO criminal charges at all for him.
So after the studio he founded kicked him out and a sponsor dropped him, other than be an idiot talking to a minor this is a nothing burger. It speaks WORSE on Twitch that they couldn't vet their internal messager given that Disrespect doesn't state if he KNEW at the time they were a minor and dropped talking to them when they found out.
And also speaks ill on all those saying "We knew about this for years" what that he was a fucking idiot for a basic mistake (why I mute everyone unless they're friends) or dod you think he was a pedo but sat on this waiting for blood in the water as that's even more disgusting.
As a streamer or youtuber, endless people message you or talk to you. Endless. 99.999% of the time you dont know who they are or their intentions or even how old. Most chats dont start out as "hi, btw how old are you??". Most of the time, age is implied like "oh, i havnt finished my algebra homework yet". Unless this guy was grooming someone, dont see a problem. If he just said.. meeting up at twitch con. Im sure lots of fans say they want to meet up. That is fine. Unless he says lets meet up at the hotel at twitch con or he sends dick pics, seems benign and nothing.
Also apparently the girl was 17. People are acting like he's a pedo for talking to a 17-year-old. There's a HUGE difference between a 17-year-old and a preteen or early teen girl. Dr was still dumb for pushing the line with a minor, but atleast she was almost legal. Lmao if he waited a few months it would be magically fine.
17?? Yea. Technically a few months she would be legal. Definitely a non issue. Is it weird? Probably. But yeah, nothing illegal or criminal in messaging a 17 year old if there is no grooming involved. And if he did talk dirty but cut off contact upon realizing the persons age, i see zero problem with that.
I wouldn't even go that far. You have ancestors who had 2 or 3 kids by the time they were that age and managed an entire household, cooked 3 meals a day, did all of laundry, ground their own grain into flour, sewed and repaired the whole family's clothes, were on their knees scrubbing the wood floors with borax, etc. We all do. Every single last one of us has ancestors, and a fucking lot of them, who were having whole families by 14,15,16,etc. And not just 10,000 years ago. More like 90 years ago. 17yos were fully capable adults for 99% of human history worldwide. The fact that the West in the past 100 years has infantilized them is the weird abnormality.
Ever single human male from 100,000BC until like 1920, had considered a 17yo woman to be fair game. The fact that in the West we just suddenly and arbitrarily decided "you can't do that anymore. You can't think that anymore" is the weird thing.
Your great grandma, my great grandma, all of our great grandmas would be thinking "a 17yo? Where was her husband? Why didn't he stop her from talking to another man?". They sure as shit wouldn't think he's weird for talking to her.
We can agree that it's stupid for him because he should know the fucked up modern age we live in. But I'm not gonna call him a creep for something 99.999% of human males worldwide for all of recorded history would have thought was entirely normal. I'm just not willing to accept that much modernism. I think modernism is the weird creepy abberation.
I view this whole topic in the same way that modern society views the issue of "well of course women should have full rights and be able to make all of their own decisions". 99.999% of civilizations worldwide for all of recorded history knew that was stupid and didn't agree. The fact that the West in the past 100 years has suddenly decided to throw out that wisdom doesn't make the West correct.
Nevermind the fact that the average 17yo Western girl has had double digit sexual partners and engaged in some of the most kinky degenerate shit out there. When your uncle when to a strip club in 1971, the strippers there were less sexually experienced than the average high school freshman in 2024. Spend 10 minutes on TikTok or Snapchat and tell me I'm wrong. I'm just not gonna sit here and wring my hands fretting and pretending that this 17yo was having a stuffed animal princess tea party before Dr.Disrespect corrupted her. I was born, but it wasn't yesterday. I'm not ignorant enough to go along with that lie.
Holy shit fucking thank you. People on this board tend to go hard on the virtue signaling for this issue. Doesnt help that we had many bouts of troll posts promoting actual pedophilia recently. But it's very refreshing to see actual eloquent pushback against modernist bullshit. Saving that comment for reference later.
Well said. Of course, both the pedo spammers on this board and modern society writ large also provide an eloquent, if unintentional, argument for setting an age of consent and sticking to it like hell, even if it’s a little arbitrary, so I don’t mind it being at 18… but pretending you’re a creep if you acknowledge that the 16 or 17 year old is obviously, visibly post-pubescent and would likely have been married or looking to marry as little as a century ago is strange.
(For that matter, I believe the legal age of consent is 16 in more individual states than not, although I could be wrong and I don’t know how that interacts with the federal law).
In the US, the majority of States use 16 as the age of consent. She would not be a minor.
The legal age of consent is 16 in most Western states/countries.
If the "minor" was 16+ I don't care.
17?? Too old for pajeet
Want to know something really weird that involves leap years, autism, and maths?
1 year = 365 days
18 years = 6570 days
Someone born on the 28th of Feb 2006 will be 6573 days old on the 27th of Feb 2024, but not yet considered 18. Because leap years are stupid.
It's even more strange when you go just a few days beyond that as 01/Mar/2006 to 01/Mar/2024 is 3575 days.
So the first example would end up with someone being 6574 days old when they were 18, and the second example someone would be a day older than that, but still having only just turned 18.
Because again, leap years are stupid!
I mean 17 and even a couple years below that are legal almost everywhere.
17 is safely legal in most of the world.
That age is legal in quite a few places. In the US, only 11 states have the age of consent as 18. Even DC sets it at 16.
A whole lot of wait and see this year frustratingly it's interesting though, even on youtube the commenters were pointing out he's probably going to have a field day with the lawsuits if it's all false. So very likely if he's got a brain he'll got radio silent and then unleash the lawyers on anyone who was dogpiling him and trying to stir shit up. With all of these types of incidents they can't talk about anything publicly because of court proceedings and that's the smart thing to do.