It will just end with the same "it'll still lead to pedo crimes eventually" retort.
Because that's literally the only thing they can use. A vague "it could maybe possibly inspire a crime in the future, so ban all of it right now" idea.
I believe the way to utterly destroy that argument (loli/sho leads to pedophilia) would have to be done scientifically, a psychological experiment that tests the reactions of both convicted child sex offenders and loli/shotacons with various materials, fictional depictions and CSAM/CP. I theorize that most of the pedos would not even touch the fictional material and most of the loli/shos would be repulsed by the CSAM (There's always going to be overlap and outliers when dealing with the mind).
The problem is such an experiment is most likely illegal (though John Money got away with his shit), would probably mess up some of the test subjects and the results subject to relativism. Also the science field is so compromised it would just result it the subjects' identities being leaked, so it can't be conducted in the current environment.
It doesn't matter if you do it scientifically, because the people arguing about it aren't doing it with logic. Their reaction to it is purely emotional, and all "reasons" are then worked backwards from there to make it not seem so.
Its why the "legality" of it in the US always falls back to obscenity laws. Which are always defined as "I know it when I see it" and then fail every single time they reach the Supreme Court to get properly defined. Because its an entirely emotional debate for people unable to separate their rightful disgust from legality.
What makes it a problem is that they are so in a rush to hurt baddie bad people, like the pedos they imagine consuming it, that they fail to consider the consequences of their actions and how the Sword they craft will be used to cut them down just as quick as the evils they forged it for.
Could "They're not real" work too?
Or would it result in a "but they look real to me" deadbrain rebuttal?
You'll end up with Aussie-type laws where if the adult pornstar's tits are too small it's "CP".
It will just end with the same "it'll still lead to pedo crimes eventually" retort.
Because that's literally the only thing they can use. A vague "it could maybe possibly inspire a crime in the future, so ban all of it right now" idea.
I believe the way to utterly destroy that argument (loli/sho leads to pedophilia) would have to be done scientifically, a psychological experiment that tests the reactions of both convicted child sex offenders and loli/shotacons with various materials, fictional depictions and CSAM/CP. I theorize that most of the pedos would not even touch the fictional material and most of the loli/shos would be repulsed by the CSAM (There's always going to be overlap and outliers when dealing with the mind).
The problem is such an experiment is most likely illegal (though John Money got away with his shit), would probably mess up some of the test subjects and the results subject to relativism. Also the science field is so compromised it would just result it the subjects' identities being leaked, so it can't be conducted in the current environment.
It doesn't matter if you do it scientifically, because the people arguing about it aren't doing it with logic. Their reaction to it is purely emotional, and all "reasons" are then worked backwards from there to make it not seem so.
Its why the "legality" of it in the US always falls back to obscenity laws. Which are always defined as "I know it when I see it" and then fail every single time they reach the Supreme Court to get properly defined. Because its an entirely emotional debate for people unable to separate their rightful disgust from legality.
What makes it a problem is that they are so in a rush to hurt baddie bad people, like the pedos they imagine consuming it, that they fail to consider the consequences of their actions and how the Sword they craft will be used to cut them down just as quick as the evils they forged it for.
At which you reply with pointing to Jack Thompson and every pathetic attempt of media trying to link CoD/GTA to school shootings.