The easiest way to dismantle the “hidden white supremacy” myth it to bring up the immaculate disproportionate amount of every ethnicity that does better under western/white society. We at least did live in a very “post racial” world for decades, the problem is that the founding myth (all races are equal) is not true. Different races have different cultural aptitudes and different IQs, this is what generates “racial stereotypes” because at least a solid proportion of that race follows the diatribes. Where we have seen the biggest disconnect to reality is the demand that demographics meet quotas, which is an insane concept, yet we pour billions of taxpayer dollars into it year after year and now are seeing the results of the failed policies
Nothing against the woman clamping up like she was in trouble when it moved onto the Jewish thing. She absolutely did and there must be a reason for that and not the whole "White power" motif that she was happy to yammer on about before.
By all means let's find out why that perfectly valid observation being put to her made her start to act suspicious when she wasn't prior.
And I'm happy to accept that his is a woman based on my own eyes and ears, but can someone tell me how we know she's Jewish?
And I'm happy to accept that his is a woman based on my own eyes and ears, but can someone tell me how we know she's Jewish?
She has the stereotypical jewish woman physiognomy and physical traits. She has the frazzle brown hair (which is noticeable even though it's tied back), the nose, that specific slant of her forehead, and the nasally way of talking. On the other side of the argument, her nose isn't that big, and her ears don't fall below her eye line. Jews usually have ears that sit lower, below the line drawn from the outside corners of the eyes backwards onto the head, when the head is looking straight on, whereas White people's ears sit higher up. I was initially skeptical (and unsure) of this specific trait at first, until I saw dozens and dozens of pictures of jewish people who show this trait.
Got you! So she has some genetic markers which indicate Jewish heritage which coupled with her suspicious behaviour brings her closer to the mark of being Jewish.
That makes more sense, still isn't absolute but it at least gives some credence to the idea that she's Jewish beyond the defensiveness over the topic changing away from white power in political positions.
Is it a general position then that Jewish people don't consider themselves white? I've seen this put across before regarding David Schwimmer being white or Jewish depending upon what is more advantageous to him at any opportunity but is it recognised as a separate class such as black, Chinese, Indian, Arabic or hispanic?
I'm only asking because I thought Jewish people are generally categorised as being white and she clearly has a bee in her bonnet about white people in positions of authority.
Is it a general position then that Jewish people don't consider themselves white?
It's not universal, but it is pretty common. Which is why there's the 'fellow white people' meme. Many Jews will claim to be white (in the meme, to shit on white people), but then when they themselves are attacked for their whiteness, or they can play a victim card, they'll go 'well, actually, I'm Jewish.'
Jewishness is an interesting state, because it's both an ethnicity/race, as well as a religion. So it can mean a lot of different things, but most Jews identify very strongly with being a Jew, and clearly in a way that is separate from white people, often to the point where, yes, they don't view themselves as white.
If the progressive social justice warriors types who run the oppression Olympics were to properly engage in categorising the forms of "Oppressor" then the Jewish people, due to the distribution of wealth and power, would be the apex predator in their sights and not just "White" people (Who would, at best be secondary to them).
Surely this would find its way through the academic circles and play out in situations like Occupy Wall Street and the #MeToo Hollywood campaigns of the 2010-2020 period instead of what actually happened which was to protect people of that category and divide those outside of it against each other.
You think Sneako interviewed her knowing nothing about her, her name or where she came from, etc etc? I mean fair enough, if that's what you think. But I want to give benefit of the doubt to Sneako because I have seen some men and women in the internet that act like her and they were pretty vocal and proud about their ethnicity.
I am agreeing that she got 'sneaky' when asked specifically about Jewish involvement in the very institutionalised positions she was all too happy to complain about white involvement in.
Nothing though indicates, to me at least, that she is Jewish.
Is Sneako a member of MS-13?
Yes, that was an intentionally stupid question to make because nothing indicates that he is. But what if it was in a Twitter message saying he was linking to this video?
That is how I got to my query, I hope that illustrates why I asked.
Personally I don't see no harm you asking questions. But think about this, without the context, we don't know how she got comfortable enough to ramble about supposed white power in american politics, the moment the topic switched to jewish question, there's noticeable discomfort about her. You know how James O'keefe or his associates used to release expose where the idiots ramble about everything they aren't supposed to reveal?
I think Sneako used similar tactics to get her to drop her guard down and start rambling away. I don't know what Sneako did to make her intention loud and clear but this little interview sort of mirrored that big twitter discussion that was held months ago when Keith Wood was asking this dumb shrew if she was from Blackcube after she went there to whine about how she's a vicitim. At first they are very overconfident about expressing their statements but they suddenly shrink back and stammer if someone asks them about their background or involvement about jews.
I just responded to someone who recognised genetic markers which could indicate that she was Jewish (I don't know much about them but it was said with enough specific points that I'm willing to accept that they are remarkable) which when coupled with her defensiveness could indicate that she does feel defensive, on a personal level, about being Jewish and not white.
I've always presumed most Jews to be white and am now querying why she would be against white people in power and not recognise them as being Jewish. It seems an odd dodge when it is very clear that many of the most publicly recognisable people in the power houses of the US are within the wider Jewish community.
Are there two types of white people or do the Jewish community not seen themselves as white?
Are there two types of white people or do the Jewish community not seen themselves as white?
I can't speak for "the Jewish community" but from what I have observed, there are a significant number of them who are happy to shit all over white people -- "wow, we white people sure do suck, right?" as long as it's in the abstract, but as soon as someone talks about them personally, e.g. "hey, you're white, why don't you give up your job since diversity is so important?" it quickly becomes "well I'm not white, I'm Jewish."
Or there are public figures like Ben Shapiro who revels in all of the anti Semitism that he receives (when probably 90+% of it is just him being shit talked because he's a giant douche) and uses that as evidence that Jewish people and Israel need special treatment because reasons.
Then there are dudes like Viva Frei or Glenn Greenwald who, as far as I can tell, don't do the whole racial collective blame thing at all and also don't even buy into the whole "wow, look at all this anti Semitism everywhere" panic. Hell, I've stopped watching Greenwald as often because he talks about the poor Palestinians and evil Israel way too much and I just don't care about it.
So there are all types. The first type does seem to be disproportionately represented in the "white/native people (except Israelis) bad" crowd.
It certainly does seem like a metaphorical minefield regarding a unified identity as many US Jews are against Israel's attacks on the Palestinian territories (From what I have gleaned from some news outlets) and so a polarity seems to exist within the overall group of people who identify that way (Genetically or otherwise).
I accept that those of student years are looking to rebel against anything and so discount them mostly from that message but there are enough older people who are Jewish speaking out against the atrocities in both Israel and the US regarding the Palestine situation.
Do you think there is a divide amongst Jewish people outside of Israel as to what the correct course of action is for the Jewish identity or will tradition and culture come back after the situation is no longer in the news and Israel's next problem is how to expand its boarders further?
Do you think there is a divide amongst Jewish people outside of Israel
Well yeah, as I mentioned, you've got Shapiro being pro-Israel and Greenwald being vocally anti-Israel.
But I don't really care about that. You'll have to ask them. I mostly just have a loathing for the people in the first category I mentioned. Nearly as much as I have a loathing for the white people who hate white people but think/claim, "I'm one of the good ones. Hate them, not me."
*edit: also, for the record, I apply that standard to just about any group of people. For example, back in 2014, I learned that the "wow, gamers sure are awful, aren't we?" people were, by far, the worst people associated with the hobby.
The easiest way to dismantle the “hidden white supremacy” myth it to bring up the immaculate disproportionate amount of every ethnicity that does better under western/white society. We at least did live in a very “post racial” world for decades, the problem is that the founding myth (all races are equal) is not true. Different races have different cultural aptitudes and different IQs, this is what generates “racial stereotypes” because at least a solid proportion of that race follows the diatribes. Where we have seen the biggest disconnect to reality is the demand that demographics meet quotas, which is an insane concept, yet we pour billions of taxpayer dollars into it year after year and now are seeing the results of the failed policies
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interesting that she jumps right to the seth rogan "who are YOU" line when he starts noticing.
Nothing against the woman clamping up like she was in trouble when it moved onto the Jewish thing. She absolutely did and there must be a reason for that and not the whole "White power" motif that she was happy to yammer on about before.
By all means let's find out why that perfectly valid observation being put to her made her start to act suspicious when she wasn't prior.
And I'm happy to accept that his is a woman based on my own eyes and ears, but can someone tell me how we know she's Jewish?
She has the stereotypical jewish woman physiognomy and physical traits. She has the frazzle brown hair (which is noticeable even though it's tied back), the nose, that specific slant of her forehead, and the nasally way of talking. On the other side of the argument, her nose isn't that big, and her ears don't fall below her eye line. Jews usually have ears that sit lower, below the line drawn from the outside corners of the eyes backwards onto the head, when the head is looking straight on, whereas White people's ears sit higher up. I was initially skeptical (and unsure) of this specific trait at first, until I saw dozens and dozens of pictures of jewish people who show this trait.
good to see some proper physiognomy again.
I'll check the ear thing myself later,seems interesting.
Got you! So she has some genetic markers which indicate Jewish heritage which coupled with her suspicious behaviour brings her closer to the mark of being Jewish.
That makes more sense, still isn't absolute but it at least gives some credence to the idea that she's Jewish beyond the defensiveness over the topic changing away from white power in political positions.
Is it a general position then that Jewish people don't consider themselves white? I've seen this put across before regarding David Schwimmer being white or Jewish depending upon what is more advantageous to him at any opportunity but is it recognised as a separate class such as black, Chinese, Indian, Arabic or hispanic?
I'm only asking because I thought Jewish people are generally categorised as being white and she clearly has a bee in her bonnet about white people in positions of authority.
It's not universal, but it is pretty common. Which is why there's the 'fellow white people' meme. Many Jews will claim to be white (in the meme, to shit on white people), but then when they themselves are attacked for their whiteness, or they can play a victim card, they'll go 'well, actually, I'm Jewish.'
Jewishness is an interesting state, because it's both an ethnicity/race, as well as a religion. So it can mean a lot of different things, but most Jews identify very strongly with being a Jew, and clearly in a way that is separate from white people, often to the point where, yes, they don't view themselves as white.
That is interesting.
If the progressive social justice warriors types who run the oppression Olympics were to properly engage in categorising the forms of "Oppressor" then the Jewish people, due to the distribution of wealth and power, would be the apex predator in their sights and not just "White" people (Who would, at best be secondary to them).
Surely this would find its way through the academic circles and play out in situations like Occupy Wall Street and the #MeToo Hollywood campaigns of the 2010-2020 period instead of what actually happened which was to protect people of that category and divide those outside of it against each other.
Yes... That's what muh "free Palestine" shit is about... You finally get it
You think Sneako interviewed her knowing nothing about her, her name or where she came from, etc etc? I mean fair enough, if that's what you think. But I want to give benefit of the doubt to Sneako because I have seen some men and women in the internet that act like her and they were pretty vocal and proud about their ethnicity.
I have no idea who Sneako or this woman are.
I am agreeing that she got 'sneaky' when asked specifically about Jewish involvement in the very institutionalised positions she was all too happy to complain about white involvement in.
Nothing though indicates, to me at least, that she is Jewish.
Is Sneako a member of MS-13?
Yes, that was an intentionally stupid question to make because nothing indicates that he is. But what if it was in a Twitter message saying he was linking to this video?
That is how I got to my query, I hope that illustrates why I asked.
Personally I don't see no harm you asking questions. But think about this, without the context, we don't know how she got comfortable enough to ramble about supposed white power in american politics, the moment the topic switched to jewish question, there's noticeable discomfort about her. You know how James O'keefe or his associates used to release expose where the idiots ramble about everything they aren't supposed to reveal?
I think Sneako used similar tactics to get her to drop her guard down and start rambling away. I don't know what Sneako did to make her intention loud and clear but this little interview sort of mirrored that big twitter discussion that was held months ago when Keith Wood was asking this dumb shrew if she was from Blackcube after she went there to whine about how she's a vicitim. At first they are very overconfident about expressing their statements but they suddenly shrink back and stammer if someone asks them about their background or involvement about jews.
I just responded to someone who recognised genetic markers which could indicate that she was Jewish (I don't know much about them but it was said with enough specific points that I'm willing to accept that they are remarkable) which when coupled with her defensiveness could indicate that she does feel defensive, on a personal level, about being Jewish and not white.
I've always presumed most Jews to be white and am now querying why she would be against white people in power and not recognise them as being Jewish. It seems an odd dodge when it is very clear that many of the most publicly recognisable people in the power houses of the US are within the wider Jewish community.
Are there two types of white people or do the Jewish community not seen themselves as white?
I can't speak for "the Jewish community" but from what I have observed, there are a significant number of them who are happy to shit all over white people -- "wow, we white people sure do suck, right?" as long as it's in the abstract, but as soon as someone talks about them personally, e.g. "hey, you're white, why don't you give up your job since diversity is so important?" it quickly becomes "well I'm not white, I'm Jewish."
Or there are public figures like Ben Shapiro who revels in all of the anti Semitism that he receives (when probably 90+% of it is just him being shit talked because he's a giant douche) and uses that as evidence that Jewish people and Israel need special treatment because reasons.
Then there are dudes like Viva Frei or Glenn Greenwald who, as far as I can tell, don't do the whole racial collective blame thing at all and also don't even buy into the whole "wow, look at all this anti Semitism everywhere" panic. Hell, I've stopped watching Greenwald as often because he talks about the poor Palestinians and evil Israel way too much and I just don't care about it.
So there are all types. The first type does seem to be disproportionately represented in the "white/native people (except Israelis) bad" crowd.
It certainly does seem like a metaphorical minefield regarding a unified identity as many US Jews are against Israel's attacks on the Palestinian territories (From what I have gleaned from some news outlets) and so a polarity seems to exist within the overall group of people who identify that way (Genetically or otherwise).
I accept that those of student years are looking to rebel against anything and so discount them mostly from that message but there are enough older people who are Jewish speaking out against the atrocities in both Israel and the US regarding the Palestine situation.
Do you think there is a divide amongst Jewish people outside of Israel as to what the correct course of action is for the Jewish identity or will tradition and culture come back after the situation is no longer in the news and Israel's next problem is how to expand its boarders further?
Well yeah, as I mentioned, you've got Shapiro being pro-Israel and Greenwald being vocally anti-Israel.
But I don't really care about that. You'll have to ask them. I mostly just have a loathing for the people in the first category I mentioned. Nearly as much as I have a loathing for the white people who hate white people but think/claim, "I'm one of the good ones. Hate them, not me."
*edit: also, for the record, I apply that standard to just about any group of people. For example, back in 2014, I learned that the "wow, gamers sure are awful, aren't we?" people were, by far, the worst people associated with the hobby.