"People think it's feral because these are country kids in utes making noise, but people going to a doof doof festival and eating pills is socially acceptable. Everyone wants to be woke."
I mean, he's not wrong.
Meanwhile, from the stupid crone who managed to temporarily destroy this event (by making it uninsurable, of all things):
"It's unsafe for everyone, but particularly for women because of the objectification."
Ms Currie says events like wet-t shirt competitions involve women giving away their agency for "fun".
"The social construct of fun [in this environment] has some really strong gendered overtones.
"The peer pressure is immense and in those moments a woman can feel under tremendous pressure to comply, to be accepted."
Lol. Women have agency (or do they?), bitch.
Edit: I saw this commented on Reddit, but it really is telling how TPTB have done as much as possible to torpedo in-person connection, and the opportunity to meet people. Everything from Covid lockdowns to taking away in-person lectures, even after Covid.
Everything is commodified and controlled. Every conversation. Every "connection". Every question to authorities. Everything must be text-based and through an app.
No wonder people clamour for offline, in-person events like Elmore.
I know I personally get really... Not well, if I spend too much time not meeting people/going to social events. Very obviously I wouldn't be alone in that.
That's the crux isn't it? Social pressure to conform" is so abstract a thing to criticize.
It's like when retards criticize "violence" or "censorship" while conveniently dropping the "unnecessary" or "unreasonable" qualifiers.
She's using social pressure to try and influence her conformity over somebody elses.
Rules for thee but not for me is pithy and spot on, but it doesn't go far enough. This isn't just a "it's fine when I do it" it's even deeper than "No bad tactics only bad targets"
It goes beyond those to a moral paradigm based on Dominance and humiliation, being Dominant is the only moral rule, and therefore, your enemies bare existence as NOT YOU defines them as non-human.
It's the Jewish worldview of total ownership amplified by replacing a holy book with introspective hedonic soliphism.
"but particularly for women because of the objectification."
lol. Nobody is objectifying those women. Those are the women who take advantage of men wearing beer goggles to get them to do something they are horrified about when they sober up.
This looks like a group of juggalos who forgot to put on their clown makeup.
"The peer pressure is immense and in those moments a woman can feel under tremendous pressure to comply, to be accepted."
Now, obviously, you could disapprove of a wet t-shirt contest particularly for any number of reasons, some feminist some not. You could even go all the way in the other direction and—channeling what I imagine Imp might say here—call a wet t-shirt contest a plot by women to manipulate men by showing off their assets.
But you could paste that specific objection onto almost anything. Going to an amusement park with your friends and riding a ride you don’t want to. Doing something frightening like a rope swing into a lake, or the high dive at the pool.
A large part of being mature is learning how to resist peer pressure and set boundaries, but another large part is learning when it’s okay to step out of your comfort zone. Never experiencing pressure is unrealistic; resisting bad pressures and minimizing your exposure to bad pressures is appropriate. People who say stuff like this want the entire world to be responsible for their choices instead of themselves.
"People think it's feral because these are country kids in utes making noise, but people going to a doof doof festival and eating pills is socially acceptable. Everyone wants to be woke."
I don't get squeamish over rowdy victimless behavior, but to me the folks photographed are almost indistinguishable from obnoxious urbanite festival addicts. But, let them have their fun, without the machine having to nudge it's way in.
I guess the difference is that the B&S crew aren't seen as "cool" or in any way celebrated or looked up to...
I mean, just look at Subby's comment below, lol.
Can't say I agree with it, but a lot of Australians (including doof partakers, I imagine) would look down upon these people. Which I think is somewhat unfair, really.
Not that they're not "obnoxious", but fuck it, there's not that much to do out there in the countryside. Can't say I blame them.
I'm an American, I have very little intuitive knowledge of Australia. But, my suspicion is that a substantial portion attending this B&S are literally the same suburbanite and urbanite ravers or bluegrass (insert comparable festival genre) attendees dressing up and driving 100 km to make the specific, subtlety pretentious tongue out photo pose that no one made 70 years ago.
People doing redneck vehicle shenanigans, wet T-shirt contests (when they don't have kids!), etc seems fun, despite my apprehensions of extroverted, ritualistic npc noise. I'm bashing the mass, generic festival aspect of what I see. In my imagination, a proper rural party is a private gathering of 100 adults engaging in no phones allowed revelry.
As an overall.misanthrope I find both groups tiresome to the point of hatred.
But one pretending it's worthless time wasting is somehow morally and socially superior to the other groups worthless time wasting pisses me off even more.
I have zero problem with garbage people as long as they acknowledge what they are.
The fact that they are all feral and disgusting bogans
The wanker "experts" opining in
The point that the article creates the idea that being fat, binge drinking and degenerate around the lowest points of Australian "culture" is somehow "anti woke"
Somehow the worst part is the couple that met at this event, and the mother of 2 STILL shows her tits at a wet t shirt competition.
I also hate the ABC, not because of the article but just in general.
I mean, I don't agree with a lot of what you've said there, and I think you're massively overthinking it, but yeah. I appreciate your critique, anyway.
Partial tongue in cheek but even if this wasn't under attack, this behaviour shouldn't be lauded. It's degenerate and bogan's shouldn't be held up as an example of Australian Culture. If anything it's anti culture.
I mean, he's not wrong.
Meanwhile, from the stupid crone who managed to temporarily destroy this event (by making it uninsurable, of all things):
Lol. Women have agency (or do they?), bitch.
Edit: I saw this commented on Reddit, but it really is telling how TPTB have done as much as possible to torpedo in-person connection, and the opportunity to meet people. Everything from Covid lockdowns to taking away in-person lectures, even after Covid.
Everything is commodified and controlled. Every conversation. Every "connection". Every question to authorities. Everything must be text-based and through an app.
No wonder people clamour for offline, in-person events like Elmore.
I know I personally get really... Not well, if I spend too much time not meeting people/going to social events. Very obviously I wouldn't be alone in that.
It's only agency when you make the correct pre-approved choices. If you don't then it was patriarchal coercion.
Apparently the quantum uncertainty principle applies to freedom too, you can only know if you're woke or if you're free, never both at once.
That's the crux isn't it? Social pressure to conform" is so abstract a thing to criticize.
It's like when retards criticize "violence" or "censorship" while conveniently dropping the "unnecessary" or "unreasonable" qualifiers.
She's using social pressure to try and influence her conformity over somebody elses.
Rules for thee but not for me is pithy and spot on, but it doesn't go far enough. This isn't just a "it's fine when I do it" it's even deeper than "No bad tactics only bad targets"
It goes beyond those to a moral paradigm based on Dominance and humiliation, being Dominant is the only moral rule, and therefore, your enemies bare existence as NOT YOU defines them as non-human.
It's the Jewish worldview of total ownership amplified by replacing a holy book with introspective hedonic soliphism.
lol. Nobody is objectifying those women. Those are the women who take advantage of men wearing beer goggles to get them to do something they are horrified about when they sober up.
This looks like a group of juggalos who forgot to put on their clown makeup.
Now, obviously, you could disapprove of a wet t-shirt contest particularly for any number of reasons, some feminist some not. You could even go all the way in the other direction and—channeling what I imagine Imp might say here—call a wet t-shirt contest a plot by women to manipulate men by showing off their assets.
But you could paste that specific objection onto almost anything. Going to an amusement park with your friends and riding a ride you don’t want to. Doing something frightening like a rope swing into a lake, or the high dive at the pool.
A large part of being mature is learning how to resist peer pressure and set boundaries, but another large part is learning when it’s okay to step out of your comfort zone. Never experiencing pressure is unrealistic; resisting bad pressures and minimizing your exposure to bad pressures is appropriate. People who say stuff like this want the entire world to be responsible for their choices instead of themselves.
"People think it's feral because these are country kids in utes making noise, but people going to a doof doof festival and eating pills is socially acceptable. Everyone wants to be woke."
I don't get squeamish over rowdy victimless behavior, but to me the folks photographed are almost indistinguishable from obnoxious urbanite festival addicts. But, let them have their fun, without the machine having to nudge it's way in.
I guess the difference is that the B&S crew aren't seen as "cool" or in any way celebrated or looked up to...
I mean, just look at Subby's comment below, lol.
Can't say I agree with it, but a lot of Australians (including doof partakers, I imagine) would look down upon these people. Which I think is somewhat unfair, really.
Not that they're not "obnoxious", but fuck it, there's not that much to do out there in the countryside. Can't say I blame them.
As you say - let them have their fun.
I'm an American, I have very little intuitive knowledge of Australia. But, my suspicion is that a substantial portion attending this B&S are literally the same suburbanite and urbanite ravers or bluegrass (insert comparable festival genre) attendees dressing up and driving 100 km to make the specific, subtlety pretentious tongue out photo pose that no one made 70 years ago.
People doing redneck vehicle shenanigans, wet T-shirt contests (when they don't have kids!), etc seems fun, despite my apprehensions of extroverted, ritualistic npc noise. I'm bashing the mass, generic festival aspect of what I see. In my imagination, a proper rural party is a private gathering of 100 adults engaging in no phones allowed revelry.
Edit: Woo girls. A bunch of woo girls and guys.
As an overall.misanthrope I find both groups tiresome to the point of hatred.
But one pretending it's worthless time wasting is somehow morally and socially superior to the other groups worthless time wasting pisses me off even more.
I have zero problem with garbage people as long as they acknowledge what they are.
I hate everything about this story.
The fact that it's happening in my country.
The fact that they're all victorians.
The fact that OP is right
The fact that they are all feral and disgusting bogans
The wanker "experts" opining in
The point that the article creates the idea that being fat, binge drinking and degenerate around the lowest points of Australian "culture" is somehow "anti woke"
Somehow the worst part is the couple that met at this event, and the mother of 2 STILL shows her tits at a wet t shirt competition.
I also hate the ABC, not because of the article but just in general.
I mean, I don't agree with a lot of what you've said there, and I think you're massively overthinking it, but yeah. I appreciate your critique, anyway.
Let 'em have their fun, I say.
Whatever floats your boat, essentially.
Partial tongue in cheek but even if this wasn't under attack, this behaviour shouldn't be lauded. It's degenerate and bogan's shouldn't be held up as an example of Australian Culture. If anything it's anti culture.
Just shut the fuck up already you psycho cunt
But Burning Man and music festivals are fine, just fine.
I wonder if the biddy bitching about wet t-shirt contests thinks it's fine for those same women to be prostitutes? Oh, money = agency?
Though it's a shame that proper dances/singles balls are long gone in favour of boozy hookup fests.