Obama is, IMO, the worst political figure in modern history. That's including Biden and Hillary and all of the criminals in the W. Bush administration.
Repealing the ban on domestic propaganda was probably the most damaging policy decision that flew under the radar in my lifetime. I attribute a large chunk of what's gone wrong in the last ten years to that, if not directly then by allowing the flames to be fanned.
That change had nothing to do with private media. It allowed the state department to broadcast its news segments (that they had been producing for years for overseas audiences) within US borders.
Operation Mockingbird started 70 years ago and despite the senate hearings that brought it to light, nothing was done to curtail such behavior going forward, and indeed it continued to flourish well before Obama was in the picture.
I don't say any of this to defend that piece of shit, but the whole "Obama legalized propaganda and that's why the media is so fucked" narrative is just flat out wrong.
No problem man. It's one of the more common misconceptions in conservative circles and still gets posted weekly over on the Donald. Most over there don't take being corrected about it well like you did though haha
I think Obama is only worse than Hillary because she never got the level of power he did. If she had won in 2008 or 2016, she would have easily eclipsed him and basically anyone else.
Obama had some level of charisma when given sufficient preparation. Hillary got less likable when they prepped her for PR events. And she still almost managed to win the 2016 election because the establishment Republicans wouldn't run anyone with the combination of charisma and policies to beat her. An old New York Democrat (and former friend of the Clintons) had to run as a Republican to beat her, and the establishment Republicans were pissed, because they'd rather have an establishment Democrat (and one of the worst ones, at that) in office than a Republican they didn't control.
Obama is as disappointing as NPR; neither had to be bottom of the barrel bad, they chose to be.
NPR didn't have have Google stealing their revenue like other news orgs did so they didn't have to chase clicks. Obama didn't have to be always divisive like in this "our side" example.
Pretty sure Trump hasn't even a single time insulted Democrat voters, only specific people and organizations.
Obama working with the MSM was I think one of the most successful propaganda campaigns in history. The media always painted him in a positive light except when they were throwing the political right the occasional bone to look "objective," pop culture wouldn't treat him like a politician, comedians wouldn't dare make fun of him; and anyone who didn't tow the line was accused of racism.
I know a number of people who were exceptionally talented at their technical jobs, yet believed everything they read in the NYT and heard on NPR. They think that he made zero mistakes and navigated the country through a time of historic prosperity...and that the only reason things weren't better was that evil Republican in the corner of the room trying to cause trouble because they were butthurt about being in the minority.
Obama is, IMO, the worst political figure in modern history. That's including Biden and Hillary and all of the criminals in the W. Bush administration.
And I say that as someone who voted for him.
Repealing the ban on domestic propaganda was probably the most damaging policy decision that flew under the radar in my lifetime. I attribute a large chunk of what's gone wrong in the last ten years to that, if not directly then by allowing the flames to be fanned.
That change had nothing to do with private media. It allowed the state department to broadcast its news segments (that they had been producing for years for overseas audiences) within US borders.
Operation Mockingbird started 70 years ago and despite the senate hearings that brought it to light, nothing was done to curtail such behavior going forward, and indeed it continued to flourish well before Obama was in the picture.
I don't say any of this to defend that piece of shit, but the whole "Obama legalized propaganda and that's why the media is so fucked" narrative is just flat out wrong.
Glad you chimed in about that. Allow me to post my favorite quote ever about the media:
Philip Graham of the Washington Post quotes a CIA operative that "You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month."
Well shit.
Thank you for the correction at any rate.
No problem man. It's one of the more common misconceptions in conservative circles and still gets posted weekly over on the Donald. Most over there don't take being corrected about it well like you did though haha
After all, if media wasn't fucked before Obama, how did he or many of his predecessors get in office?
I think Obama is only worse than Hillary because she never got the level of power he did. If she had won in 2008 or 2016, she would have easily eclipsed him and basically anyone else.
No disagreement here. She was limited by her opportunity to be awful.
Obama had some level of charisma when given sufficient preparation. Hillary got less likable when they prepped her for PR events. And she still almost managed to win the 2016 election because the establishment Republicans wouldn't run anyone with the combination of charisma and policies to beat her. An old New York Democrat (and former friend of the Clintons) had to run as a Republican to beat her, and the establishment Republicans were pissed, because they'd rather have an establishment Democrat (and one of the worst ones, at that) in office than a Republican they didn't control.
Obama is as disappointing as NPR; neither had to be bottom of the barrel bad, they chose to be.
NPR didn't have have Google stealing their revenue like other news orgs did so they didn't have to chase clicks. Obama didn't have to be always divisive like in this "our side" example.
Pretty sure Trump hasn't even a single time insulted Democrat voters, only specific people and organizations.
Obama working with the MSM was I think one of the most successful propaganda campaigns in history. The media always painted him in a positive light except when they were throwing the political right the occasional bone to look "objective," pop culture wouldn't treat him like a politician, comedians wouldn't dare make fun of him; and anyone who didn't tow the line was accused of racism.
I know a number of people who were exceptionally talented at their technical jobs, yet believed everything they read in the NYT and heard on NPR. They think that he made zero mistakes and navigated the country through a time of historic prosperity...and that the only reason things weren't better was that evil Republican in the corner of the room trying to cause trouble because they were butthurt about being in the minority.