I see this as nothing but an absolute win. The modern US military is most likely to be turned on us, the American people. Having my suspicions about them being retarded be vindicated is quite the relief.
Meanwhile because the other side is private security forces and they've got all the resources they need.
The other side is the children of Executive Outcomes. (For everyone who doesn't know the name, every South African mercenary group in movies is an expy of Executive Outcomes.) Some of the guys who worked for EO now own their own security firms, and they remember what SA did to their bosses, and there's definitely a grudge there.
The butt of the weapon sitting higher on the shoulder is fine for the 5.56. The AR15 has almost zero kick so it can be comfortably shot in that position for a long while, and it provides better ergonomics so you don't have to lower your head to the sights. You'd want better shoulder positioning for higher caliber rifles, though, as some kick so hard even a well positioned rifle hurts like hell.
In any case, I'd like to draw attention to the dude's nose.
This can't be true. The media and politicians tell me that an AR-15 will literally explode a deer, so they are usless for hunting.
/I actually agree that they aren't good for hunting, but just because I wouldn't shoot anything larger than a coyote with one. An AR-10 would be much better.
I remember a "news" article coming out a few years ago after a mass shooting. I believe it was from the NYT. The writer claimed he shot an AR15, and described the experience like he went through the worst hells of WW1 and WW2 combined, got PTSD and disoriented from the explosions, and injured his shoulder. He was thoroughly mocked all across the internet, and several Youtubers demonstrated how low the AR15 kicked. One guy even shot it off of his nose.
That's gotta be the perfect stereotypical Jew nose. I never peddle the muh juice narrative. I just thought it funny once you pointed that out, the first thing I thought of was a goblin, which leads right there.
As it should be. Even short dudes can shoot like that - training tells you to keep the stock fully extended and use an L stance when shooting standing, UNTIL you put on armor. When wearing armor you then shorten the stock and use a wider stance. But initial basic rifle training does involve full open stock, and everyone not a midget can actually shoot fine with that. That is what the army trains.
Your training may differ out of convenience for civilians, but the collapsible stock is not for user arm comfort, it is for compensating when wearing armor vests, which prevent normal shouldering. Everyone could shoot fine using a full length stock before the collapsible was introduced - standard service rifles for the hundred+ years before the m4 were issued worked fine.
And then it doesn't line up at all with how you have to use it with armor, when you can't shoulder it properly. You also get an inconsistent sight picture between the two. It matters less with modern optics than it does with irons, but fuckabout tacticool room clearing drills and practical marksmanship are different things.
Shorter lever to rotate around the shoulder point of contact means the muzzle moves less
That entire sentence is word vomit with no effective meaning. You aren't doing long range shooting while standing, and indoors that is a completely irrelevant metric.
Lemme guess, it's some bullshit sbr with no effective use beyond 100 yards, too. The ATF going mad over them is one of their greatest tricks - convinced tens of thousands of retards to intentionally buy shit rifles.
20" barrel like god intended. Now get it in a real caliber, because 5.56 is good for platoons with autos in cities but most SHTF scenarios will have you alone or in small groups, and having a .308 is magnitudes more versatile.
Realistically even the m4 length barrel is wasteful outside of cqb - it drastically reduces effective range. The difference between 14.5 and 20 is the difference between being able to effectively hit at 300 vs 500 yards. Afghanistan really made clear how shit that is, because average engagement ranges were about 800, so only the m240 gunners and the radio operators had much use without spending several minutes bounding towards shit.
Yeah, I don't think when my brother was in the Air Force was he ever actually issued a firearm at any point including multiple "combat zone" deployments. The nature of his job and the chance of ever actually needing to fire at the enemy, it would just be something that's a pain in the ass to carry around. I imagine the Navy is quite the same, I mean really how often does a Captain need to be firing at the enemy?
I do wonder if that optic is really backwards, I suppose it doesn't matter if the caps are on. Oh and I always shoot with sunglasses if I'm outside. Don't really give a shit what someone says, I can see and I wear glasses anyway.
It still looks really awkward to my less trained eye but I have still shot a decent handful of guns. Probably for the reasons you state. He just looks uncomfortable. I'd guess because he's not a gun guy, hasn't shot much or at all, and they wanted him for a photo op. What's the point of showing a Captain shooting a rifle anyway? Shouldn't I really be interested at his competence at his actual job? I mean "hey this guy hasn't ever crashed into a bridge" would be more relevant than whether or not he can fire a rifle.
Commercial ranges that rent machine guns do the same thing, they always have a range safety behind the shooter who rents a machine gun
This has not been my experience, but I also rent from that range off my VA ID.
The person shooting it is the ship's CO, who almost certainly doesn't own his own firearms, and is possibly qualified to shoot it, but is not trained
I'm just going to stop that sentence right there and add that most people don't realize that higher ranking commissioned officers generally don't know how to operate small arms anymore.
At the really high levels they stop being military and become politicians.
Lmao the fucking scope is backwards
How do they manage to fuck up this bad??
I see this as nothing but an absolute win. The modern US military is most likely to be turned on us, the American people. Having my suspicions about them being retarded be vindicated is quite the relief.
The other side is the children of Executive Outcomes. (For everyone who doesn't know the name, every South African mercenary group in movies is an expy of Executive Outcomes.) Some of the guys who worked for EO now own their own security firms, and they remember what SA did to their bosses, and there's definitely a grudge there.
The butt of the weapon sitting higher on the shoulder is fine for the 5.56. The AR15 has almost zero kick so it can be comfortably shot in that position for a long while, and it provides better ergonomics so you don't have to lower your head to the sights. You'd want better shoulder positioning for higher caliber rifles, though, as some kick so hard even a well positioned rifle hurts like hell.
In any case, I'd like to draw attention to the dude's nose.
This can't be true. The media and politicians tell me that an AR-15 will literally explode a deer, so they are usless for hunting.
/I actually agree that they aren't good for hunting, but just because I wouldn't shoot anything larger than a coyote with one. An AR-10 would be much better.
I remember a "news" article coming out a few years ago after a mass shooting. I believe it was from the NYT. The writer claimed he shot an AR15, and described the experience like he went through the worst hells of WW1 and WW2 combined, got PTSD and disoriented from the explosions, and injured his shoulder. He was thoroughly mocked all across the internet, and several Youtubers demonstrated how low the AR15 kicked. One guy even shot it off of his nose.
That's gotta be the perfect stereotypical Jew nose. I never peddle the muh juice narrative. I just thought it funny once you pointed that out, the first thing I thought of was a goblin, which leads right there.
I find the random black hand on the dude's shoulder just as hilarious as the other retarded shit in this image.
I just find the term "practice gun shoots" hilarious.
Has it been community noted yet?
Waaaaaaaay too far back.
It's amazing how this picture just get's more and more wrong, the more you look at it. I feel a little queasy, and want off Mr. Bones' Wild Ride.
As it should be. Even short dudes can shoot like that - training tells you to keep the stock fully extended and use an L stance when shooting standing, UNTIL you put on armor. When wearing armor you then shorten the stock and use a wider stance. But initial basic rifle training does involve full open stock, and everyone not a midget can actually shoot fine with that. That is what the army trains.
Your training may differ out of convenience for civilians, but the collapsible stock is not for user arm comfort, it is for compensating when wearing armor vests, which prevent normal shouldering. Everyone could shoot fine using a full length stock before the collapsible was introduced - standard service rifles for the hundred+ years before the m4 were issued worked fine.
And then it doesn't line up at all with how you have to use it with armor, when you can't shoulder it properly. You also get an inconsistent sight picture between the two. It matters less with modern optics than it does with irons, but fuckabout tacticool room clearing drills and practical marksmanship are different things.
That entire sentence is word vomit with no effective meaning. You aren't doing long range shooting while standing, and indoors that is a completely irrelevant metric.
Lemme guess, it's some bullshit sbr with no effective use beyond 100 yards, too. The ATF going mad over them is one of their greatest tricks - convinced tens of thousands of retards to intentionally buy shit rifles.
20" barrel like god intended. Now get it in a real caliber, because 5.56 is good for platoons with autos in cities but most SHTF scenarios will have you alone or in small groups, and having a .308 is magnitudes more versatile.
Realistically even the m4 length barrel is wasteful outside of cqb - it drastically reduces effective range. The difference between 14.5 and 20 is the difference between being able to effectively hit at 300 vs 500 yards. Afghanistan really made clear how shit that is, because average engagement ranges were about 800, so only the m240 gunners and the radio operators had much use without spending several minutes bounding towards shit.
How do you move about with your arms all scrunched up? I find that exceptionally uncomfortable, and I'm, about your size.
Yeah, I don't think when my brother was in the Air Force was he ever actually issued a firearm at any point including multiple "combat zone" deployments. The nature of his job and the chance of ever actually needing to fire at the enemy, it would just be something that's a pain in the ass to carry around. I imagine the Navy is quite the same, I mean really how often does a Captain need to be firing at the enemy?
I do wonder if that optic is really backwards, I suppose it doesn't matter if the caps are on. Oh and I always shoot with sunglasses if I'm outside. Don't really give a shit what someone says, I can see and I wear glasses anyway.
It still looks really awkward to my less trained eye but I have still shot a decent handful of guns. Probably for the reasons you state. He just looks uncomfortable. I'd guess because he's not a gun guy, hasn't shot much or at all, and they wanted him for a photo op. What's the point of showing a Captain shooting a rifle anyway? Shouldn't I really be interested at his competence at his actual job? I mean "hey this guy hasn't ever crashed into a bridge" would be more relevant than whether or not he can fire a rifle.
The digital camo was hilarious. The only way it would work is if you fell off the boat...
This has not been my experience, but I also rent from that range off my VA ID.
I'm just going to stop that sentence right there and add that most people don't realize that higher ranking commissioned officers generally don't know how to operate small arms anymore.
At the really high levels they stop being military and become politicians.