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Vaush being exposed as a loli lover has reignited the “Is Loli/Shota porn CP?” debate. (youtu.be)
posted 2 years ago by redman012 2 years ago by redman012 +28 / -0
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– yoisi 29 points 2 years ago +29 / -0

People trying to call it CP or trying to call lolicons "pedo" have diluted the words so much and its the reason why i no longer know what people are talking about when they use the words, and whether they are talking about a bunch of anime characters or whether its actually about real children.

And Vaush has said and done way worse things in the past and the only time he gets massively cancelled is when people want to defend the rights of fictional cartoons characters of course. Though Vaush is also a gigantic hypocrite considering he attacked people over anime characters in the past himself as well

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– AbleistSL 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Yep, also I love to mention that everything other than the loli and the feral is what actually matters when talking about why he is considered a predator, plus there was criticism about people who only started to call him a pedo/zoo because he was caught with mere offensive drawings.

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– yoisi 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

There were legitimate reasons to call him a predator over many of the past things that he has done and said. But people completely ignored all that and only started trying to massively cancel him because the rights of fictional anime characters are more important to them than anything real

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– SR388-SAX 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Dude's been arguing for lower/no age of consent laws and that sexual relationships can benefit children for years and caused no uproars or controversies.

But then, look at who his typical listeners are.

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– Sumsuch 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I'm pretty uncomfortable (understatement) with the lion's share of the loli/shota stuff that's out there, but I feel like the incendiary nature of the entire issue has taken the debate away from what the real issue is, as it was explained to me while I was growing up: Paedophilia is wrong because of the massive power imbalance between the child and the adult. Because the adult has such vastly greater life experience, and can remember what the world was like when they themselves were children, even claims that it was consensual are effectively meaningless. This is also why consent laws are even tighter when other power imbalances are involved, such as a teacher/student, boss/employee or guardian/charge. What I personally find significant about all this is how the same concept of power imbalances can be applied to morality in other aspects of life, and it bothers me that the dumbing down of this issue could be making it harder for people to recognize exploitation and abuse in non-sexual situations as well, such as youth engagement on social media.

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– SR388-SAX 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

"Power imbalance" is a nonsensical feminist argument. Particularly when you factor in that women are most attracted to men with the greatest "power imbalances" relative to everyone else.

Children can't meaningfully consent because they don't have the mental faculties to do it.

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– Sumsuch 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Children can't meaningfully consent because they don't have the mental faculties to do it.

...which results in a power imbalance when compared to an adult. You basically just restated the same thing with different words.

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– fauxgnaws 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

He only restated the same thing if you define "power" as just "mental capacity", which if you do you might as well just say mental capacity.

The problem with "power imbalance" is that it's so nebulous that you can just define it any way you want. A hulk married to an Olive Oil, is the power imbalance in his favor even if he's a lovable oaf and she's a dragon lady? It could be either way depending on which argument you're trying to win.

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– Adamrises 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Its not even just the loli thing that is specifically cancelling him.

Its that the right eceleb finally told people it was okay to do so. Proving as always that people have no principles or morality to get them moving, they need "authority" to tell them they can destroy someone.

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