Not a malicious one, but I can confirm Cyber Sleuth was godawful from sheer incompetence. Minimal effort machine translation.
Example- a scenario where everyone was screaming about "Bakemon" (the ragged ghost Digimon). The catch- there wasn't a single Bakemon. They were saying "Bakemono," Japanese for "Monster."
The metal rockstar going "lolllolol" all the time though, that's accurate. His script in Japanese is pretty much "wwwwwwwwwwwwwww," their "lol" equivalent. You'd have to see an image or video of it in Japanese though.
Also, it's clear that the female protagonist choice was an afterthought, everything was presented as though the protagonist was male.
The grind didn't concern me (Lilithmon broke the game with her Defense Piercing attack, and Mastemon could cut their HP in half), the absolute unfairness of post-game shit did. Single Royal Knight bosses getting thirteen actions before you get one.
Its entire value was in letting you have and raise your favorite Digimon. If you aren't that invested in the series to have one, its offers nothing but generic combat.
Its the time honored tradition of Digimon games. It offers one thing of value, bogged down by dozens of other caveats.
No one talked about it because Digimon games never make waves, are always bogged down by legit incompetent translations, and Cyber Sluts' popularity surprised everyone. It doesn't make it better, it was just years before the game was even able to be talked about outside Digimon specific forums.
So it didn't get the attention of the grifters making clickbait videos that everyone who "talks about it" get their information from in the first place.
I hate seeing "bae." People are really so lazy they can't pronounce the second B in babe?
Yes, that in turn is short for "baby," but at least saying babe would avoid confusion with actual infants.
And for those into Vtubers, no, I don't like "Bae" as a nickname of Hakos Baelz, either. And I like her.
I also hate seeing internet abbreviations used in in-person dialogue.
Hell, I hate seeing them HERE (and I admit to being lazy on this as well). I get it when you have strict character limits, like on Twitter, but here you have fifteen thousand characters per comment to work with!
How's the newer world one? I think I saw it out on pc now. Cyber sleuth I was a bit disappointed in, not only by the translation but also the gameplay not be as good. I miss digimon world for the ps1.
Next Order is a fine game that is ruined by its own difficulty. Not in terms of just being hard, but in terms of the numbers being jacked up so high that if you aren't constantly rocking a near top level team you aren't progressing. Which eventually reaches the point where your individual Mons are meaningless because you can only win battles using the EXE fusion.
It would be fine if they were charging what it should be worth by now at sub 20$, but they are fucking insane and charging near full release for a nearly decade old game they ported.
Once again DW1 just can't be touched. Re:Digitize is the closest we ever got, but its bogged down by its extreme linearity and "if you aren't good at timing, good luck ever training."
Guess I should just replay Digimon World 1, it's still one of my favorite games in the PS1, and that is saying something considering the other amazing games on that console. Kinda wish there was something doing the Digimon World 1 formular perfectly but alas it seems like a lot of them are not catching thag spirit then, sad.
Unironically, its because they lack soul. DW1 is oozing with little bits of soul everywhere that make you not care about the god awful parts. In fact, a lot of that soul comes from the jank and misery it puts you under which other games remove.
Like, Greymon ruining your entire day is something that no sane dev would do now but its one of the most remembered parts of the game to this day.
Also, I'm one of those psychos who prefers DW2 and thinks its the best Digimon game by far, and all the haters literally just need to get good and actually pay attention because their criticisms always reveal they missed something huge like the Trade Center.
So I think that's the formula they should revisit, instead of trying to recapture DW1 for the 5th time and still failing.
Which eventually reaches the point where your individual Mons are meaningless because you can only win battles using the EXE fusion.
Yeah, definitely a major issue. And I think EXE had a limit to once per day? Boss battles really were impossible without it. That said, one of my most exciting moments was being defeated somewhere, getting pissed about it, only for the main theme to start with a whole bunch of visual effects, as apparently EXE was automatically triggered (and that was how I even learned about it). Straight out of a goddamn anime turnabout moment.
Once you had a decent amount of some stat you could force EXE every battle just from the command screen, which was the only way to finish the last few areas really. Like, as that "chance when you die turn around" it was an awesome moment like you said, but as a required technique it just got old.
The whole game really suffered for its overtuned difficulty. Every aspect of it gets filtered through that and dragged down.
If you liked Digimon World 1 (I'm assuming this is the PS1 DW you are referring to), Next Order is the closest thing to it mechanically. Same combat and similar gameplay mechanics, being a virtual pet manager/battler basically. You have two digimon partners instead of one. The translation as I remember it was fine, I definitely don't recall anything as atrocious as Cyber Sleuth off the top of my head.
There is another game that is similar to DW1 and Next Order, called Digimon World Re;Digitize for the PSP, and an enhanced version called Digimon World Re:Digitize Decode on the 3DS. Neither of these were released in english, but there are complete fan translations for both versions of the game and I would recommend playing through this at some point.
Next Order? Hard as fuck, have to deal with lifespans, forcing you to retrain your two partners every new cycle (though the apparently gradually retain more and more strength each cycle), your partners are mostly AI controlled.
And the evolution is a lot harder to control, and often doesn't make sense. Remember how Mastemon was introduced as a fusion of Angewomon and LadyDevimon? Neither can become her in this game, but Meicrackmon can.
Translation-wise, it HAD to be better, they actually dubbed it in English.
Not a malicious one, but I can confirm Cyber Sleuth was godawful from sheer incompetence. Minimal effort machine translation.
Example- a scenario where everyone was screaming about "Bakemon" (the ragged ghost Digimon). The catch- there wasn't a single Bakemon. They were saying "Bakemono," Japanese for "Monster."
The metal rockstar going "lolllolol" all the time though, that's accurate. His script in Japanese is pretty much "wwwwwwwwwwwwwww," their "lol" equivalent. You'd have to see an image or video of it in Japanese though.
Also, it's clear that the female protagonist choice was an afterthought, everything was presented as though the protagonist was male.
The grind didn't concern me (Lilithmon broke the game with her Defense Piercing attack, and Mastemon could cut their HP in half), the absolute unfairness of post-game shit did. Single Royal Knight bosses getting thirteen actions before you get one.
Its entire value was in letting you have and raise your favorite Digimon. If you aren't that invested in the series to have one, its offers nothing but generic combat.
Its the time honored tradition of Digimon games. It offers one thing of value, bogged down by dozens of other caveats.
No one talked about it because Digimon games never make waves, are always bogged down by legit incompetent translations, and Cyber Sluts' popularity surprised everyone. It doesn't make it better, it was just years before the game was even able to be talked about outside Digimon specific forums.
So it didn't get the attention of the grifters making clickbait videos that everyone who "talks about it" get their information from in the first place.
Was that intentional? I honestly can't tell.
Have you SEEN some of the female cast? It's a justified meme.
looks through the screenshots again
...holy crap, I didn't notice. God, I must be low-T in my old age.
It was, its been the meme name for it forever because the only reason most people play it was for the hot anime girls and Lilithmon.
I hate seeing "bae." People are really so lazy they can't pronounce the second B in babe?
Yes, that in turn is short for "baby," but at least saying babe would avoid confusion with actual infants.
And for those into Vtubers, no, I don't like "Bae" as a nickname of Hakos Baelz, either. And I like her.
I also hate seeing internet abbreviations used in in-person dialogue.
Hell, I hate seeing them HERE (and I admit to being lazy on this as well). I get it when you have strict character limits, like on Twitter, but here you have fifteen thousand characters per comment to work with!
How's the newer world one? I think I saw it out on pc now. Cyber sleuth I was a bit disappointed in, not only by the translation but also the gameplay not be as good. I miss digimon world for the ps1.
Next Order is a fine game that is ruined by its own difficulty. Not in terms of just being hard, but in terms of the numbers being jacked up so high that if you aren't constantly rocking a near top level team you aren't progressing. Which eventually reaches the point where your individual Mons are meaningless because you can only win battles using the EXE fusion.
It would be fine if they were charging what it should be worth by now at sub 20$, but they are fucking insane and charging near full release for a nearly decade old game they ported.
Once again DW1 just can't be touched. Re:Digitize is the closest we ever got, but its bogged down by its extreme linearity and "if you aren't good at timing, good luck ever training."
Guess I should just replay Digimon World 1, it's still one of my favorite games in the PS1, and that is saying something considering the other amazing games on that console. Kinda wish there was something doing the Digimon World 1 formular perfectly but alas it seems like a lot of them are not catching thag spirit then, sad.
Unironically, its because they lack soul. DW1 is oozing with little bits of soul everywhere that make you not care about the god awful parts. In fact, a lot of that soul comes from the jank and misery it puts you under which other games remove.
Like, Greymon ruining your entire day is something that no sane dev would do now but its one of the most remembered parts of the game to this day.
Also, I'm one of those psychos who prefers DW2 and thinks its the best Digimon game by far, and all the haters literally just need to get good and actually pay attention because their criticisms always reveal they missed something huge like the Trade Center.
So I think that's the formula they should revisit, instead of trying to recapture DW1 for the 5th time and still failing.
Yeah, definitely a major issue. And I think EXE had a limit to once per day? Boss battles really were impossible without it. That said, one of my most exciting moments was being defeated somewhere, getting pissed about it, only for the main theme to start with a whole bunch of visual effects, as apparently EXE was automatically triggered (and that was how I even learned about it). Straight out of a goddamn anime turnabout moment.
Once you had a decent amount of some stat you could force EXE every battle just from the command screen, which was the only way to finish the last few areas really. Like, as that "chance when you die turn around" it was an awesome moment like you said, but as a required technique it just got old.
The whole game really suffered for its overtuned difficulty. Every aspect of it gets filtered through that and dragged down.
If you liked Digimon World 1 (I'm assuming this is the PS1 DW you are referring to), Next Order is the closest thing to it mechanically. Same combat and similar gameplay mechanics, being a virtual pet manager/battler basically. You have two digimon partners instead of one. The translation as I remember it was fine, I definitely don't recall anything as atrocious as Cyber Sleuth off the top of my head.
There is another game that is similar to DW1 and Next Order, called Digimon World Re;Digitize for the PSP, and an enhanced version called Digimon World Re:Digitize Decode on the 3DS. Neither of these were released in english, but there are complete fan translations for both versions of the game and I would recommend playing through this at some point.
No clue, haven't played it.
Next Order? Hard as fuck, have to deal with lifespans, forcing you to retrain your two partners every new cycle (though the apparently gradually retain more and more strength each cycle), your partners are mostly AI controlled.
And the evolution is a lot harder to control, and often doesn't make sense. Remember how Mastemon was introduced as a fusion of Angewomon and LadyDevimon? Neither can become her in this game, but Meicrackmon can.
Translation-wise, it HAD to be better, they actually dubbed it in English.