Then its an online self report on fucking porn habits. I shouldn't have to point out how useless that is for getting anything resembling the "truth" from people, let alone having any validity to make any statements about people or society.
My only statement was that porn -- all of it -- is bad. Regardless of if it's fictional or real.
Their study was so bad they couldn't even twist it to support their hypothesis and had to straight up admit it was wrong. Which props to them for.
Which doesn't detract from my original statement: all porn is bad.
Which is why I question if you even read the study. Because it says nothing about paraphilia other then hentai being a fucking paraphilia.
You've been prone to emotional outbursts before whenever I make basic statements, which makes no sense to me. My original statement was..."hentai creates paraphilia addictions as well as much higher attachment anxiety rates compared to standard porn"
This was noted in the study, where it states... "Fictophilia is a type of paraphilia. Paraphilia involves individuals having atypical sexual arousal towards atypical things or objects. Paraphilia exists across many different cultures, but the exact prevalence of people who experience paraphilias is unknown (Bhugra et al., 2010). "
This doesn't contradict or detract from my statements, which was simply that hentai creates paraphilia addictions due to fictophilia. It's just a statement of fact, since hentai isn't real, and people addicted to hentai will have established a paraphilia, spawned from fictophilia, an issue that would become a growing problem due to AI pornography, as discussed here:
https://www.livemint.com/opinion/columns/the-emergence-of-fictosexuals-and-its-reverberations-11652892543383.html
And it fails to prove anything you accused it of (even in just the summary) other than women are neurotic.
Re-read my original statement... slowly. I noted that hentai is not better than standard porn, it still has many of the same pitfalls and problems, as discussed in the piece above, and as noted in the study, which noted that -- to your own quote from the study -- there was no difference in addiction rates between hentai and non-hentai pornography, other than raised attachment anxiety. I didn't mention anything about differences in gender, this is something you drew up on your own.
If you have your own emotional connection to the subject matter, then that's all fine. But nothing in the study nor in your own post contradict anything I wrote in a simple two sentence comment.
Calm down, re-read what I said, and try to understand the original intent before replying.
No it is a paraphilia. That's a clever bit of word trickery you are trying to use, by insinuating that hentai is creating more paraphilias when the study says nothing of the such. Your own statement is false, as someone who consumes hentai already has a paraphilia and the study conducts zero effort on any other paraphilia.
there was no difference in addiction rates between hentai and non-hentai pornography, other than raised attachment anxiety. I didn't mention anything about differences in gender, this is something you drew up on your own.
Well yes, because you didn't actually read the study so you didn't note how it openly said only women had attachment anxiety issues after consuming hentai. Or you did, but deliberately left that schism out because it undermines your point because people would ask why women were like that instead of jumping to "porn bad!"
You made two points, both of which I'd probably agree with, and then linked a useless study that supports them in no way and even on the off chance it did would still prove nothing because of how poorly setup it was to begin with.
I don't care about your porn debate, just get better "studies" if you want to link some source to appeal to Science™.
as someone who consumes hentai already has a paraphilia and the study conducts zero effort on any other paraphilia.
This is literally semantics.
Well yes, because you didn't actually read the study so you didn't note how it openly said only women had attachment anxiety issues after consuming hentai. Or you did, but deliberately left that schism out because it undermines your point because people would ask why women were like that instead of jumping to "porn bad!"
I left out gender because porn is bad for men and women, period.
You seriously need to get your emotional irrationality under control. If you gleaned anything from my post other than "porn is bad" that is entirely a you problem.
EDIT: I should also point out that the study served the job well of pointing out hentai addiction is still an addiction-- even by your own admission a paraphilia -- which was the original point: AI or real life, porn addiction is bad.
If you gleaned anything from my post other than "porn is bad"
I don't give a shit about your post. I cared about the study you linked because I wanted to see the studies conducted to something I could agree with. The study ended up being retardedly bad to a point where it had nothing to do with what you were trying to say it did, and drew in the question of your own capability to make a statement on the matter if you think otherwise.
I got your point, its the same bargain bin "porn is bad!" that gets posted 20 times a day. You just tried to spice it up with an appeal to authority without reading it, then cried about semantics when you couldn't back it up.
Trying to convince people they are mad when your argument is failing won't help you win them or the spectators to your side. You need better studies and a better debate club.
I don't give a shit about your post. I cared about the study you linked because I wanted to see the studies conducted to something I could agree with.
Again, that's a you problem. Your emotional instability caused you go on a long rant about something that had nothing to do with my post. Check your insecurity.
The study ended up being retardedly bad to a point where it had nothing to do with what you were trying to say it did,
I literally didn't say it said anything other than porn is bad, regardless of it being hentai or real. YOU extrapolated an entire strawman to sate your own emotional attachment to the subject matter. Again, that's a YOU problem that had nothing to do with my post.
I got your point, its the same bargain bin "porn is bad!" that gets posted 20 times a day. You just tried to spice it up with an appeal to authority without reading it, then cried about semantics when you couldn't back it up.
The study did back it up. Try again.
Trying to convince people they are mad when your argument is failing won't help you win them or the spectators to your side. You need better studies and a better debate club.
It was a reply to the original post about hentai being a viable alternative to real porn, to which I responded it has the exact same pitfalls. Nothing you wrote in your screeds refute or even address my original point, which is a failing on your side to comprehend a simple two-sentence comment.
Ergo, there was no debate, just irrefutable facts: Porn is bad.
My only statement was that porn -- all of it -- is bad. Regardless of if it's fictional or real.
Which doesn't detract from my original statement: all porn is bad.
You've been prone to emotional outbursts before whenever I make basic statements, which makes no sense to me. My original statement was..."hentai creates paraphilia addictions as well as much higher attachment anxiety rates compared to standard porn"
This was noted in the study, where it states... "Fictophilia is a type of paraphilia. Paraphilia involves individuals having atypical sexual arousal towards atypical things or objects. Paraphilia exists across many different cultures, but the exact prevalence of people who experience paraphilias is unknown (Bhugra et al., 2010). "
This doesn't contradict or detract from my statements, which was simply that hentai creates paraphilia addictions due to fictophilia. It's just a statement of fact, since hentai isn't real, and people addicted to hentai will have established a paraphilia, spawned from fictophilia, an issue that would become a growing problem due to AI pornography, as discussed here: https://www.livemint.com/opinion/columns/the-emergence-of-fictosexuals-and-its-reverberations-11652892543383.html
Re-read my original statement... slowly. I noted that hentai is not better than standard porn, it still has many of the same pitfalls and problems, as discussed in the piece above, and as noted in the study, which noted that -- to your own quote from the study -- there was no difference in addiction rates between hentai and non-hentai pornography, other than raised attachment anxiety. I didn't mention anything about differences in gender, this is something you drew up on your own.
If you have your own emotional connection to the subject matter, then that's all fine. But nothing in the study nor in your own post contradict anything I wrote in a simple two sentence comment.
Calm down, re-read what I said, and try to understand the original intent before replying.
No it is a paraphilia. That's a clever bit of word trickery you are trying to use, by insinuating that hentai is creating more paraphilias when the study says nothing of the such. Your own statement is false, as someone who consumes hentai already has a paraphilia and the study conducts zero effort on any other paraphilia.
Well yes, because you didn't actually read the study so you didn't note how it openly said only women had attachment anxiety issues after consuming hentai. Or you did, but deliberately left that schism out because it undermines your point because people would ask why women were like that instead of jumping to "porn bad!"
You made two points, both of which I'd probably agree with, and then linked a useless study that supports them in no way and even on the off chance it did would still prove nothing because of how poorly setup it was to begin with.
I don't care about your porn debate, just get better "studies" if you want to link some source to appeal to Science™.
This is literally semantics.
I left out gender because porn is bad for men and women, period.
You seriously need to get your emotional irrationality under control. If you gleaned anything from my post other than "porn is bad" that is entirely a you problem.
EDIT: I should also point out that the study served the job well of pointing out hentai addiction is still an addiction-- even by your own admission a paraphilia -- which was the original point: AI or real life, porn addiction is bad.
I don't give a shit about your post. I cared about the study you linked because I wanted to see the studies conducted to something I could agree with. The study ended up being retardedly bad to a point where it had nothing to do with what you were trying to say it did, and drew in the question of your own capability to make a statement on the matter if you think otherwise.
I got your point, its the same bargain bin "porn is bad!" that gets posted 20 times a day. You just tried to spice it up with an appeal to authority without reading it, then cried about semantics when you couldn't back it up.
Trying to convince people they are mad when your argument is failing won't help you win them or the spectators to your side. You need better studies and a better debate club.
Again, that's a you problem. Your emotional instability caused you go on a long rant about something that had nothing to do with my post. Check your insecurity.
I literally didn't say it said anything other than porn is bad, regardless of it being hentai or real. YOU extrapolated an entire strawman to sate your own emotional attachment to the subject matter. Again, that's a YOU problem that had nothing to do with my post.
The study did back it up. Try again.
It was a reply to the original post about hentai being a viable alternative to real porn, to which I responded it has the exact same pitfalls. Nothing you wrote in your screeds refute or even address my original point, which is a failing on your side to comprehend a simple two-sentence comment.
Ergo, there was no debate, just irrefutable facts: Porn is bad.